San-O Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 1. Had anyone on this board heard of him prior to Bills signing. 2. Why do they think he is a legit # 2? 3. BY one report, his dropped passes in training camp are becoming an issue. 4. What happens if/when Watkins goes down? 5. Was this a Whaley signing? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14403/andre-holmes
Gunsgoodtime Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I personally am not optimistic about him. Reports when he came is was he drops a lot of passes and that has proven to be true so far in camp. Hope they sign Boldin
#34fan Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Can't catch clean... Could always stay on the roster as a big RZ decoy, though...
Rocky Landing Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 1. Had anyone on this board heard of him prior to Bills signing. 2. Why do they think he is a legit # 2? 3. BY one report, his dropped passes in training camp are becoming an issue. 4. What happens if/when Watkins goes down? 5. Was this a Whaley signing? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14403/andre-holmes One has to wonder how many balls he has to drop before he starts to slide down the depth chart. He certainly has fallen behind expectations. It would be nice to have a reliable 6'4" WR. If only Lewis had reliable hands! And, why did we let Hunter walk? (Other than that he couldn't?)
San-O Posted August 5, 2017 Author Posted August 5, 2017 One has to wonder how many balls he has to drop before he starts to slide down the depth chart. He certainly has fallen behind expectations. It would be nice to have a reliable 6'4" WR. If only Lewis had reliable hands! And, why did we let Hunter walk? (Other than that he couldn't?) That's kind of one of the issues IMO: Zay Jones has never caught an NFL pass. He would have to move UP if Holmes can't catch or if Sammy goes down, or both.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 That's kind of one of the issues IMO: Zay Jones has never caught an NFL pass. He would have to move UP if Holmes can't catch or if Sammy goes down, or both. Jones has gone by Holmes. The plan was never for him to be behind Holmes. He has never caught an NFL pass but has caught more passes than any player in college football history (399). He wasn't a project. He's a guy coming in day one as a starter. It's the rest of the guys that are an issue. Streater may go by Holmes as may others. Holmes will be a part-time player here and if Boldin is signed he is fighting for a roster spot IMO.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Jones has gone by Holmes. The plan was never for him to be behind Holmes. He has never caught an NFL pass but has caught more passes than any player in college football history (399). He wasn't a project. He's a guy coming in day one as a starter. It's the rest of the guys that are an issue. Streater may go by Holmes as may others. Holmes will be a part-time player here and if Boldin is signed he is fighting for a roster spot IMO. ....Boldin won't sign......he'll wait for bigger money when an injury comes along and a club in need expands its checkbook..his last chance to cash IMO....Holmes will serve as decent depth.................
Kirby Jackson Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 ....Boldin won't sign......he'll wait for bigger money when an injury comes along and a club in need expands its checkbook..his last chance to cash IMO....Holmes will serve as decent depth................. I don't disagree. He's made a good bit of money too. I don't see the Bills situation and small money swaying him.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I don't disagree. He's made a good bit of money too. I don't see the Bills situation and small money swaying him. ...so get your pads outta the garage bro.............
billsbackto81 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Holmes and his drops have been an issue and that's unfortunate. I was never really high on him but I do hold hope for Streater and Shorts. Really think these kids crack the roster.
re enlightener Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Holmes and his drops have been an issue and that's unfortunate. I was never really high on him but I do hold hope for Streater and Shorts. Really think these kids crack the roster. REALLY? THATS CRAZY....LIKE USING BOLD FOR YOUR POST
Rocky Landing Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Holmes and his drops have been an issue and that's unfortunate. I was never really high on him but I do hold hope for Streater and Shorts. Really think these kids crack the roster. I'd be surprised now if Streater didn't make the 53. I think Shorts is more of a dark horse, still. But, I love the way he has preached TC, developing a chemistry with Peterman, first, and getting himself noticed. Really hope he succeeds.
Luxy312 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 1. Had anyone on this board heard of him prior to Bills signing. 2. Why do they think he is a legit # 2? 3. BY one report, his dropped passes in training camp are becoming an issue. 4. What happens if/when Watkins goes down? 5. Was this a Whaley signing? http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14403/andre-holmes 1 - Yes, of course. I wondered why they signed Crabtree a number of years ago when they had Holmes and drafted Cooper. Looking at the numbers though, you can see why. 99 targets and only 47 receptions. Not a great ratio. 2 - Who is "they"? I didn't hear any of the front office or coaching staff tell us right out of the gate that he's a #2. As far as I know, he was going to compete for playing time like everyone else. 3 - Drops in camp are the same as spectacular plays in camp. Don't care now and won't care ever. He doesn't have a great record for catches in gametime though, and that does matter. Hey, did you know who else had a lot of drops? Robert Woods. 4 - If Watkins goes down the same thing happens as the last two years. Other guys play. There's probably better depth on this team now than with Woods and Hogan. Zay Jones is better than any #2 that we've had the last two years as well, at least as far as I've seen. Bigger target, better route runner and better hands. 5 - Don't know who signed him or wanted him and don't care. Not relevant.
fansince88 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 REALLY? THATS CRAZY....LIKE USING BOLD FOR YOUR POST Problem? He used bold because he is right. Both players are showing promise.
The Wiz Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) He is number 2 assuming Watkins and Jones are 1a and 1b. And he still might not be a 2 by the end of camp. Edited August 5, 2017 by The Wiz
fansince88 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I'd be surprised now if Streater didn't make the 53. I think Shorts is more of a dark horse, still. But, I love the way he has preached TC, developing a chemistry with Peterman, first, and getting himself noticed. Really hope he succeeds. What have you personally seen Streater do in TC that makes you think this is the case?
Rocky Landing Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 What have you personally seen Streater do in TC that makes you think this is the case? Well, I live on the West Coast, so, I have seen nothing. I'm just going by camp reports, and McDermott's statements, including that Streater has been "one of the highlights of camp, so far."
fansince88 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Well, I live on the West Coast, so, I have seen nothing. I'm just going by camp reports, and McDermott's statements, including that Streater has been "one of the highlights of camp, so far." Oh, you are saying he will make it? Misread by me. I have seen him and am impressed with him and Shorts.
MAJBobby Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 When on the field with Raiders was open a ton. His issue has been and seems like it continues to be he cant catch a cold
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