Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I'm definitely not leading the parade for him to get in the HOF but with 2 rings, will have over 50,000 passing yards when he retires, will probably have close to 400 passing TD's and he's likable to the writers....I think they vote him in. Yeah - he won't be a first ballot guy without an MVP or all-pro appearance. 200 straight games and counting though is pretty cool.
klos63 Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Kurt Warner is one of the best stories in sports history It's a decent story, quite a bit overblown in my opinion. Should have nothing to do with being a HOF'er or not.
jumbalaya Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 OJ's a disgrace and should be removed from the HOF.
Captain Murica Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Troy Aikman. Got to QB an offense with one of the greatest RBs ever (is Emmitt top 3 or top 5?), a top notch blocking FB, an amazing talent at WR in Irvin, and unbelievable OL. He's 34th all time in yards, by my look 16 of the guys ahead of him retired after him or are still active. 68th in TDs. Career stats averaged out over his 12 years: 2745 yards, 13.75 TD, 11.75 INT. Even though he didn't play in the same era as today's QBs, that's....kind of putrid. The only thing he has going for him is 3 rings. I argued this very same player not being HOF worthy on the other message board and I get flamed hard for it. I think he benefited from a great team.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 OJ's a disgrace and should be removed from the HOF. Will never happen and it shouldn't.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 It's a decent story, quite a bit overblown in my opinion. Should have nothing to do with being a HOF'er or not. 2 league MVPs and 3 super bowl apperances and a super bowl MVP all after beginning his career at age 28 should be the evaluation. Not his "story"
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Going to be unpopular but Marv...... Looking objectively - 4 super bowls (losses), but 21st all time in wins. He's on that border of in.
4_kidd_4 Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Baseballs only tricky because the old timers actually played significantly longer than they do now. So like the 300 win threshold is sooo much tougher for pitchers now. And 3000 hits is just a gauntlet Fair points.
Runninrams Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Let's look at the list... Here's 12 I'd move to the Hall of Good: Jerome Bettis Nick Buoniconti Harry Carson Cris Carter Fred Dean Tony Dungy Cortez Kennedy Art Monk Jackie Smith Jason Taylor Andre Tippett Aeneas Williams And obviously 1 ex-Bill goes to the Hall of Shame: Ralph C. Wilson you're off base with Jason Taylor and Andre Tippett. Tippett was the 2nd most feared LB of the 80s after LT. He played the same style and was a force, just overshadowed by LT. 100 sacks for a linebacker is absurd and he was named to the 2nd team all 80s by the HOF. Jason Taylor is one of the premier DE/LB of the 00s, in his prime no one was feared more because he could change the game with a strip, pick or sack. 139.5 sacks 775 tackles 46 forced fumbles 29 recoveries 8 int 9 td 1x DPOY, 3x 1st team All Pro, 2nd team All 00s team by HOF Carter and Monk look worse now because of the explosion of passing in the game, but at the time they retired they were #2 and #3 in receptions and yards. That's a HOF'er Edited August 4, 2017 by Runninrams
Matt_In_NH Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I also do not think Terrell Davis should be in. He had 4 good years, 3 mediocre years. He played on a team that chop blocked like crazy. I am always surprised how much support he gets. It's kind of inconsistent though. When a guy like T.O. isn't in yet it doesn't seem like it is too easy to make the HOF. Tim Brown is another guy I thought had to wait longer than he should have. TO should be in based on numbers alone but he destroyed locker rooms and was a terrible teammate.....I think it is fair that is considered. At times he made his team worse even with his immense talent. I do still think he should be in but that is the reason he is not.
RevWarRifleman Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Joe Namath definitely belongs in the HOF. It's not always about stats, but the impact they had on the game during their era. His stats don't stink, although in 1967 he did become the first qb to throw for over 4,000 yards ( in 12 games). But I think he's mainly in the Hall because of this: He quarterbacked the first AFL team to win the Super Bowl, and it was not a fluke win. This was a huge breakthrough for the league which, at the time, a big part of the nation viewed the AFL as a bush league. He influenced the personality of professional sports just simply by how he lived off the field in a glamorous city, NYC. (the cult of personality, if you will.) The impact of the above points, influenced other sports and athletes for many years afterward. He really did leave quite a legacy, and by 1985, he was voted in. It's a game of human beings, not machines or computers spitting out stats.
row_33 Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Joe Namath should not be in the HOF. Overall, he was a terrible QB. He was the man. He won the game. Sorry that modern day stats, screamed out by people who couldn't throw a spiral 10 feet, have convinced people he wasn't great.
jahbonas Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 Going to be unpopular but Marv...... Agreed - he rode Secretariat and came in 2nd - you can throw Ralph in there too
Clyde Smith Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 If they are in then they should be in. They was voted in by the fans and their peers. Congrats to all that made it, just appreciate it. Some of you guys wasn't born or too little to appreciate their accomplishments.
GunnerBill Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) It's a decent story, quite a bit overblown in my opinion. Should have nothing to do with being a HOF'er or not.I disagree and I have consistently argued that the HoF should be about stories as much as stats. EDIT: same applies to Namath for me. Stories as much as stats. Edited August 4, 2017 by GunnerBill
Royale with Cheese Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 He was the man. He won the game. Sorry that modern day stats, screamed out by people who couldn't throw a spiral 10 feet, have convinced people he wasn't great. He didn't have good stats in any era. In fact....they were awful. He won the game? His zero TD performance and 206 yards won that game? Maybe you're impressed by his career 50% completion percentage? Maybe him throwing 47 more INT's than TD's? Maybe that he only threw for more than 3,000 yards twice....197 yards per game average?
#34fan Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 All I have to say is if there's no Lorenzo Neal, Tomlinson's career is alot shorter.
dwight in philly Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) I did not read thru all the pages, but seeing people on here question joe namath's induction into the HOF tells me there are lots of total jackasses on here.. is this place full of uninformed , know-it-all millennials? for crissakes, nobody had the accuracy, release like him.. he had two damaged knees.. mind-boggling Edited August 4, 2017 by dwight in philly
Royale with Cheese Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I did not read thru all the pages, but seeing people on here question joe namath's induction into the HOF tells me there are lots of total jackasses on here.. is this place full of uninformed , know-it-all millennials? Tell me why Joe Namath belongs in the Hall?
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