Kirby Jackson Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 With the current CBA practice time and OTA rules you simply don't have the ability to completely break down and rework your #3 QB anymore. Particularly if he's not super invested in working hard on his own and/or resistant to change. Even in camp there are probably half the snaps there used to be. Teaching a guy to have field vision and accuracy is nearly impossible by the time they've gotten to the NFL, hence you don't really see a lot of truly developmental QBs work out. More often you see QBs who were drafted low because of measurables such as arm strength or size work out than guys with cannons but no vision or accuracy. There is a window to learn those skills and those guys missed it. It was a bad pick when they made it. Getting a 7th is a win because he was going to be cut in about 3 weeks. I don't disagree that time is limited but a lot of teams keep 2 guys. I don't see the value in giving reps to Yates. If he plays all year you win like 3 games. Are you saying to yourself, "great this guy can get us in position to be awful." I'd much rather use that time to try to develop a guy. It's not just a Bills issue either. The Rams last year were a decent example. It was a little different in that he was a starter but why bother starting Case Keenum? What was the objective? Your team was going to suck with him you might as well suck with the young guy and get him experience. There's no value IMO to investing in bums. I understand keeping those guys through camp but if Tyrod goes down you pick up the phone and call Yates. He leaves the HS football team that he is an assistant coach for and gets put on the roster. Peterman can finish the game in the short term. If you have a good backup (like Fitz) it's a little different. Those guys will end up on a roster. If not, try to develop young guys.
Coach Tuesday Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 My goodness, Whaley pissed away so many draft picks. What a terrible GM.
CanadianFan Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 I knew he was on the move when Bills were looking at some unknown QB called McDade. My goodness, Whaley pissed away so many draft picks. What a terrible GM. Completely unfair. Why don't you come up with some logical rational proof instead of some stupid comment befitting grade 4 education? He has been more than good. Bills weren't the best but he sure as fak did more than a decent job. This was a SHYT team before he came on dude. Total BUFFALO DUNG talent. Only living on the legacy of Kelly years. TOTAL BUFFALO DUNG in terms of talent.
#34fan Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Accuracy is a physical asset. He did not have it at OSU and didn't have it last year and won't have it this year either. Last season Rivers threw the league-high in INT's... And not for the first time either.... Cardale is in a good place. -He might just find chemistry with a receiver or two... If that happens, it will smooth-out the accuracy issues, IMO. Edited July 27, 2017 by #34fan
Captain Murica Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 My goodness, Whaley pissed away so many draft picks. What a terrible GM. I'd say he was pretty terrible at drafting,but, was pretty good at finding players off the streets and having success. Mediocre GM, not terrible. John Idzik on the other hand...
KellyToughII Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 ...sure as hell is....an egotistical move IMO.....if that is the new regime's premise, we're in for a longer, asinine haul than once thought.......there IS some pre-new regime talent on this club period.... They traded him before they cut him. He will be a perennial 3rd QB on rosters at best. Buffalo never should have drafted him in the first place. Thank God Whaley is gone
Rico Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Completely unfair. Why don't you come up with some logical rational proof instead of some stupid comment befitting grade 4 education? He has been more than good. Bills weren't the best but he sure as fak did more than a decent job. This was a SHYT team before he came on dude. Total BUFFALO DUNG talent. Only living on the legacy of Kelly years. TOTAL BUFFALO DUNG in terms of talent. "Damn straight!"
NoSaint Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Agreed. I didn't have the highest hopes for him but we gave a raw guy with all the physical tools one year to be a NFL qb. Next to the Browns, we are the biggest joke franchise in the NFL at developing qb. At least we still have TJ Yates! But good for Cardale. He gets to go to LA, play for his former coach, and learn from a damn good qb. The only way cardale has a chance to succeed is with some semblance of consistency and guys that believe in him at the helm. Staying here would've been scrapping all his reads, verbiage, footwork, etc..... you can't be shocked he's gone, only happy we got a resource back. The minute we got rid of the offensive staff his days were severely numbered. Frankly, given our coach, gm, and coordinator (roman) were all such short leashes it was a tough pick to take such a project. Whaley may not have known he and Rex were that short but picking a huge project and firing his OC in September is the type of decision making I hope not to see moving forward.
That's No Moon Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Last season Rivers threw the league-high in INT's... And not for the first time either.... Cardale is in a good place. -He might just find chemistry with a receiver or two... If that happens, it will smooth-out the accuracy issues, IMO. Interceptions aren't often the result of an inaccurate pass it's the result of an improper read or a forced throw. Rivers forces throws into coverage all the time. His career completion percentage is 64.4% though. Peyton Manning led the league in INTs too. I don't think anyone would call him inaccurate.
Crusher Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Someone find Noogie75 and lock him in a rubber room! He's officially on suicide watch! Coming from a poster who is clearly way more obsessed over an average at best QB... I find this hilarious.
KRT88 Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 T.J. Yates' job is secure. So much for we want competition at every position.
stuvian Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 you can expect most of DW's projects to suffer a similar fate
KD in CA Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 So much for we want competition at every position. Don't they still have 3 QBs?
4BillsintheBurgh Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 My goodness, Whaley pissed away so many draft picks. What a terrible GM. Because he didn't draft a qb for the west coast offense?
John from Riverside Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 And that 7th will be cut in about a year from now. I don't care either way for the move, but applauding a 7th round pick for a guy we spent a 4th rounder doesn't make sense. I dont know about applaud....but I do think some credit needs to be given for turning what was going to be nothing into at least something Sill....buying high and selling low sucks
CanadianFan Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Note: Chargers traded for Cardale after they worked out RGIII. RGIII so done! LOL Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheetFollowing More The #Chargers gave up a late conditional pick to the #Bills for Cardale Jones, source said. They had worked out Robert Griffin III yesterday
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Bills just tweeted it out! Must have looked bad or Peterman must look good! Ghosts of Whaley' s past (your next Tyrod)
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