JM2009 Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Oh, so you meant, how's the deep ball, how's shady, and we need a great defense and then we're okay? Deep ball is fine when Watkins is healthy and on the field. http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/07/07/west-coast-offense-tyrod-taylor-buffalo-bills/ "Some of Taylor’s struggles can be attributed to injuries suffered to Buffalo’s key skill players, though. In the 15 games that LeSean McCoy, Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods and Charles Clay all played in, Taylor completed 64-percent of his passes for 3,362 yards, throwing 26 touchdowns and six interceptions. In the 14 games without either one of those players, those numbers dropped to a 61.2-percent completion rate, 2,697 passing yards with just 11 touchdowns and six interceptions."
BringBackOrton Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Deep ball is fine when Watkins is healthy and on the field. http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/07/07/west-coast-offense-tyrod-taylor-buffalo-bills/ "Some of Taylors struggles can be attributed to injuries suffered to Buffalos key skill players, though. In the 15 games that LeSean McCoy, Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods and Charles Clay all played in, Taylor completed 64-percent of his passes for 3,362 yards, throwing 26 touchdowns and six interceptions. In the 14 games without either one of those players, those numbers dropped to a 61.2-percent completion rate, 2,697 passing yards with just 11 touchdowns and six interceptions." Those stats are about Sammy, Woods, McCoy and Clay. Edited August 1, 2017 by jmc12290
The Wiz Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) If Rex had Kirk Cousins do you really think they still run the ball that much. They ran the ball so much because they knew Taylor was limited as a passer. If Rex kept calling run with Cousins he would audible to a pass play, I don't even think Taylor knows what audible means. Probably. That's what the offense was all about, running the ball. When you got a player like shady you run it as much as he can. Those stats are about Sammy, Woods, McCoy and Clay. They are about all of them. Sammy, Woods, McCoy, Clay, TT, Shady, O'Leary, etc. They are offensive stats IMO. You can't say Sammy was good and TT was bad when some of the playmakers aren't even playing. Edited August 1, 2017 by The Wiz
BringBackOrton Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Probably. That's what the offense was all about, running the ball. When you got a player like shady you run it as much as he can. They are about all of them. Sammy, Woods, McCoy, Clay, TT, Shady, O'Leary, etc. They are offensive stats IMO. You can't say Sammy was good and TT was bad when some of the playmakers aren't even playing. What?
The Wiz Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 This is what concerns me with the offense. The Bills have mastered !@#$ing up things that worked well from previous regimes throughout the drought. Wouldn't shock me if that continues with the new offense under Dennison this year. I'm guessing it will be a combo of things they are doing better and things they are doing worse.
BringBackOrton Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 what what? I don't understand what you're talking about.
reddogblitz Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Wentz is going to be an interesting one. At this point he can be anywhere from awful to a franchise QB. Usually after that many starts we have a better sense for the floor and the ceiling. From week 5 on he was one of the worst starters in the league. He was 285 of 472, 60.4%, 232 YPG, 9 TDs and 13 INTs. He only had 2 games over a 90 rating after week 4 and none over 95. His QB rating was over 100 in 3 of the first 4 games. Which player is he the guy that started the year or the guy that finished it? After there was some tape on him defenses realized he was a check down artist and treated him accordingly.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 This is what concerns me with the offense. The Bills have mastered !@#$ing up things that worked well from previous regimes throughout the drought. Wouldn't shock me if that continues with the new offense under Dennison this year. ...so then if it does NOT continue under the new Dennison offense and it works, now what?......
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Good post. Your expecting turnovers to come down They might not..... It's not the passing yards, John. It's his command of the game. The turnovers will come down, but you can't "teach" a player to make plays like Winston can. I think Tyrod plays scared -- like he's afraid to make a mistake lest he'll lose his job. Winston doesn't give a f**k -- he's just trying to win. "He is just trying to win" Exactly how is that working out for him? His team is picking ahead of us in the draft EVERY year. You have to control the ball in order to win the game....if you are making bonehead mistakes with the ball at key moments.....you dont win It really is no different then the game manager who WONT make the pass when the game is on the line....neither one wins the game. You have to be smart at crucial times in the game and Winston is not.
Fan in San Diego Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 We should have won the first jets game. Then for the Dolphins games we were trampled by Jay Ajayi. If the defense performed better, we win those 2 games and then we are 10-5 going into the jets game. We definitely would have went in seriously and played well to guarantee our playoff spot. That Jay Ajayi game was embarrassing. The defense made him look like a HOF god incarnate. This is part of the reason I don't worry about Tyrod, if the defense plays that bad, it doesn't matter how good TT plays.
Prickly Pete Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0684044527173900519-4 I can't wait to hear news that he's actually sharper in practice. I saw another update saying that him and Sammy are having a hard time connecting and I saw another one saying he wasn't to sharp. I hope this is just early season jitters. Please let it be. The title of this thread is awful. If the topic isn't interesting enough, or novel enough to have a title that isn't some kind of bait, I wish people wouldn't bother.
BringBackOrton Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Your expecting turnovers to come down They might not..... "He is just trying to win" Exactly how is that working out for him? His team is picking ahead of us in the draft EVERY year. You have to control the ball in order to win the game....if you are making bonehead mistakes with the ball at key moments.....you dont win It really is no different then the game manager who WONT make the pass when the game is on the line....neither one wins the game. You have to be smart at crucial times in the game and Winston is not. No one has ever told this man you miss 100% of shots you don't take. Shame.
3rdand12 Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 worrying can cause ulcers. and things like that I'm really not concerned with other teams. However the qb situation for the Bills have been outright embarrassing. And there have been quite a few misses along the way. As bad as the Browns have been their luck have been better then the Bills. The Bills have the longest drought in the league. Since Jim Kelly and Doug Flutie look what the Bills been getting at QB, compared to what they could've had. I just would like to see changes. you have not hit the reset button since ownership change and a full blown Staff exorcism. Its the red button on the back of the VCR. Its says " Do Not Press" but go ahead and give it a shot. !7 years is too long to not change a mindset my Friend. Go for It !
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) ...new day....new dawn...new era....new offense...potentially a new TT.....and a KNOWN new OC in Dennison.....so stop launching these new TT yap threads.......they're older than my Grandma's Confederate flag shorts and just as stale....Jesus, get over it....... Edited August 1, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
3rdand12 Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) If the guy connected on his passes hitting players in stride he would have more 300 yard games. Has he even passed for 300 in a regular game that didn't go into OT? Bottom line is that Taylor is not a good enough passer to carry this team to the playoffs. If Rex had Kirk Cousins do you really think they still run the ball that much. They ran the ball so much because they knew Taylor was limited as a passer. If Rex kept calling run with Cousins he would audible to a pass play, I don't even think Taylor knows what audible means. Rex did not call the Offense. He barely called Defense and how'd that go Edited August 1, 2017 by 3rdand12
3rdand12 Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 I can easily imagine Tyrod wont develop too.But i won't worry about it. get those STmers and Defense rolling again and we will have some fun this season ! Go Bills !
The Wiz Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 I don't understand what you're talking about. which part?
John from Riverside Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 No one has ever told this man you miss 100% of shots you don't take. Shame. There are 52 other players on the team that need you to not lose the game for them as well......keep that in mind.
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