Foxx Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 It would be pretty cool if you said this 20 more times. somebody needs to kick that record player.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Exactly. Your not saying TT = DB 😉😉 What was the Saints running game like? Don't confuse better passing for passing only That's the point. You can win a bunch of different ways. The Saints running game was middle of the league. Their defense was trash. I'd expect their running game to take a step. Peterson has been really good this offseason.
Domdab99 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 hey, does anyone have any opinion on whether Tyrod is decent?
transplantbillsfan Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 7.... I don't think we're gonna agree on anything, my friend. How did I know 7 would be the number someone like you would believe I was saying Taylor belonged. That isn't where I think he was, btw... read what I said... I wonder if transplant thinks Kaepernick is also rated that high. His stats are pretty similar with also a similar skill set. Who were his receivers last year in SF? C'mon man!!! Can we all try to stop selectively reading posts?
BringBackOrton Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 How did I know 7 would be the number someone like you would believe I was saying Taylor belonged. That isn't where I think he was, btw... read what I said... C'mon man!!! Can we all try to stop selectively reading posts? You didn't say he had the 7th to 15th best QB season in 2015?
JaCrispy Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 IMO the only way Tyrod is the Bills QB in 2018 is by, not only making the playoffs, but he has to WIN a playoff game as well. Now, do I think could happen? sure. Do I think it will happen? Nope.
transplantbillsfan Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) You didn't say he had the 7th to 15th best QB season in 2015?I said somewhere in there, yes. I said exactly "By whatever measurements or metrics or I tests you want to use, you could put Taylor anywhere from 7 to 15 reasonably, I think." To which you reply... 7.... I don't think we're gonna agree on anything, my friend. With this... as though he was definitively 7. Just some strange interpretation there. Edited July 31, 2017 by transplantbillsfan
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 IMO the only way Tyrod is the Bills QB in 2018 is by, not only making the playoffs, but he has to WIN a playoff game as well. Now, do I think could happen? sure. Do I think it will happen? Nope. IMO the only way Tyrod isn't the Bills QB in 2018 is if someone else on the roster gives us a better chance to win football games.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 That's the point. You can win a bunch of different ways. The Saints running game was middle of the league. Their defense was trash. I'd expect their running game to take a step. Peterson has been really good this offseason. Good to know. I've seen mixed responses from the twittersphere.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Good to know. I've seen mixed responses from the twittersphere. Yeah, I'm drafting him in all of my fantasy leagues (assuming he's late enough). They still have Ingram too so the carries won't be extremely high but the production should be strong.
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 IMO the only way Tyrod isn't the Bills QB in 2018 is if someone else on the roster gives us a better chance to win football games. Certainly to start 2018 I'd agree. I think if the Bills draft one in the 1st next April then whether Tyrod remains the starter throughout the 2018 season depends as much on the W-L record as his personal performance.
26CornerBlitz Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 @Andy_Benoit Will be interesting to see how Tyrod Taylor does in #Bills new offense. He’ll be put on the move and have reads defined.
Royale with Cheese Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) @Andy_Benoit Will be interesting to see how Tyrod Taylor does in #Bills new offense. Hell be put on the move and have reads defined. Does this mean he won't have the option to audible? Edited July 31, 2017 by Teeflebees
Bangarang Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 How did I know 7 would be the number someone like you would believe I was saying Taylor belonged. That isn't where I think he was, btw... read what I said... C'mon man!!! Can we all try to stop selectively reading posts? What are your thoughts on Kaep as a QB? I'd assume you think as highly of him as you do Tyrod.
26CornerBlitz Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 @Andy_Benoit Will be interesting to see how Tyrod Taylor does in #Bills new offense. He’ll be put on the move and have reads defined. Tyrod Taylor the NFL’s best pure deep ball thrower because of air he gets under the ball. Issue with Tyrod Taylor are the throws he doesn’t attempt. Leaves too many open receivers on the field. No stat can show this. Additional observations from Benoit.
Crusher Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Additional observations from Benoit. And this is one of Transplants guys that he used to help support his Tyrod argument basically telling you he lacks major passing ability. He obviously can't make reads well, and he fails to anticipate receivers as well as use certain portions of the field. This guy is so limited, it's pathetic. Moving on from him is inevitable. Does this mean he won't have the option to audible? Have you ever seen it before? He didn't have that permission within the offense because he hasn't shown the ability to read the defense and exploit weaknesses. Of course we will hear the usual excuses such as it was Roman's offense and other nonsense, but all the signs point to a limited QB that while possessing great talent, he doesn't possess the QB awareness and intellect at that position. There is literally nothing that disproves this. All the way back to college his issues were making reads and processing the field. The same rings true going into season number seven in the pro's. Expect limited passing with some flash mixed in due to his great physical talent. There will be no significant jump in play, and he can only really go down or maintain average play. Neither is good enough, and it's only a matter of time before he becomes a high end backup. That's where his value lies IMO.
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 "Issue with Tyrod Taylor are the throws he doesn’t attempt. Leaves too many open receivers on the field. No stat can show this." This is absolutely the crux of the Tyrod issue. You simply have to go and watch the tape, because the problem with Tyrod is not the plays he makes.... it is the ones he doesn't. The 2 yard gains on a scramble that should have been a 25 yard pass play to a wide open receiver he has not seen.
Bangarang Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 "Issue with Tyrod Taylor are the throws he doesnt attempt. Leaves too many open receivers on the field. No stat can show this." This is absolutely the crux of the Tyrod issue. You simply have to go and watch the tape, because the problem with Tyrod is not the plays he makes.... it is the ones he doesn't. The 2 yard gains on a scramble that should have been a 25 yard pass play to a wide open receiver he has not seen. Yeah but he doesn't turn the ball over. That's all that matters right?
26CornerBlitz Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 From listening to Beane, this sounds like one of his concerns with Tyrod. @Andy_Benoit Tyrod Taylor’s other issue: he’s not comfortable in the pocket later in the down. His lack of height and subtle movement skills limit vision
Big Gun Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) "Issue with Tyrod Taylor are the throws he doesn’t attempt. Leaves too many open receivers on the field. No stat can show this." This is absolutely the crux of the Tyrod issue. You simply have to go and watch the tape, because the problem with Tyrod is not the plays he makes.... it is the ones he doesn't. The 2 yard gains on a scramble that should have been a 25 yard pass play to a wide open receiver he has not seen. Right on, the All 22 doesn't lie. It didn't matter who his WR were, they were open. Edited July 31, 2017 by old school
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