C.Biscuit97 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 The top five defense I agree with, but one season of 9-7 when NE really didn't care about that last game, isn't inheriting "winning teams". They were 6-10 before that. I'm glad Ryan is gone, but he inherited an average NFL team overall, maybe a little above average. They are still an average roster at best, which is why they can use a vet like Boldin. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You constantly brag about this too 100 offense we had. So Rex inherited a top 5 defense and we had a top 10 offense. I know you have a hard on for hating on Whaley but that would mean there was a lot of talent on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 9-7 to 8-8. Winning team to buffoon led disaster. 8-8 to 7-9. Buffoon led disaster to fire everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If someone told me pre-Ryan that we'd lead the league in rushing for his two straight years and were in the top 10 in scoring offense with a free-agent QB and still couldn't make the wild card at least one of the two years (with extremely favorable scheduling) with the talented defense that, ya know - a defensive head coach, inherited, my mind would be blown. And oh boy, it sure is. I support McDermott/Beane's visions for short and long term success, but if we don't make some noise in these next couple years, Shady, Dareus, Sammy, Clay, Richie/Eric, and many other of our not-so-young talents will either walk or see their level of play decline. I admittedly fell hook, line, and sinker for the Ryan hype (as did whipping boy Russ Brandon and the Pegulas), and it just sucks that we didn't hire a proper coach two years ago where this team was far closer to playoff competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If someone told me pre-Ryan that we'd lead the league in rushing for his two straight years and were in the top 10 in scoring offense with a free-agent QB and still couldn't make the wild card at least one of the two years (with extremely favorable scheduling) with the talented defense that, ya know - a defensive head coach, inherited, my mind would be blown. And oh boy, it sure is. I support McDermott/Beane's visions for short and long term success, but if we don't make some noise in these next couple years, Shady, Dareus, Sammy, Clay, Richie/Eric, and many other of our not-so-young talents will either walk or see their level of play decline. I admittedly fell hook, line, and sinker for the Ryan hype (as did whipping boy Russ Brandon and the Pegulas), and it just sucks that we didn't hire a proper coach two years ago where this team was far closer to playoff competition. Yes. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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