OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Why do you need a gun in a waterpark? Is this some new way of dissuading some 12 year old from cutting you in line? ....especially with Goodell and his microscope for stuff like this......Ron White said, "you can't fix stupid"................
Straight Hucklebuck Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Like I said, the Bills have no DT depth behind Williams and Dareus.
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 I hate questioning the intelligence of someone I don't know personally. But he seems like a dumb human being. I would have zero problem if they cut him. And this is what our country has come to? People arguing that it's ok to carry weapons at water parks?
EasternOHBillsFan Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Why do you need a gun in a waterpark? Is this some new way of dissuading some 12 year old from cutting you in line? For the Constitutionally protected use of guns by gnomes, pool boys, playful bikini clad waterpark spies, and of course big NFL players in fear for their lives at said waterpark.
vincec Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) I hate questioning the intelligence of someone I don't know personally. But he seems like a dumb human being. I would have zero problem if they cut him. And this is what our country has come to? People arguing that it's ok to carry weapons at water parks? I was thinking the exact same thing reading this thread. And before people chime in, I know that it was in the parking lot outside the water park as they were closing... like that makes a huge difference. Regarding Washington though, why would you take out your gun when the police arrive to clear the parking lot? There HAS to have been something going on there that was threatening in some way. Otherwise taking out your gun just when the police get there is the definition of asking for trouble... Edited July 11, 2017 by vincec
WMDman Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Time to give Leger a call to sure up depth if AW is suspended?
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Again, cut him Because....Because....he's an idiot.I get what all you constitutin gun toters are sayin. The guy tried to get noggin and got set up. Then waves his piece. He should borrow Colin's socks. Bye bye..this isn't Reggie White here.
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 There's a whole lot of ignorance in this thread
MPT Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Maybe someone from Ohio can clear this up, but I'm pretty sure the issue is that a conceal carry does not apply to a handgun that is visible while inside a vehicle. So they're basically getting him with a technicality that won't result in any legal ramifications besides a fine. So, in that case, I don't think it would result in a suspension either. Also, and I may be wrong again, but didn't Ohio just pass a law that closed this loophole? i.e. handguns in vehicles will now fall under the legal domain of conceal carry? Maybe it hadn't taken effect when he got nailed, but I thought this was a recent legislation. Anyway, brandishing your handgun in a parking lot in front of cops is seriously stupid, but not necessarily illegal. When it comes to NFL players during the off-season, sometimes that's the best you can hope for.
Gugny Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Maybe someone from Ohio can clear this up, but I'm pretty sure the issue is that a conceal carry does not apply to a handgun that is visible while inside a vehicle. So they're basically getting him with a technicality that won't result in any legal ramifications besides a fine. So, in that case, I don't think it would result in a suspension either. Also, and I may be wrong again, but didn't Ohio just pass a law that closed this loophole? i.e. handguns in vehicles will now fall under the legal domain of conceal carry? Maybe it hadn't taken effect when he got nailed, but I thought this was a recent legislation. Anyway, brandishing your handgun in a parking lot in front of cops is seriously stupid, but not necessarily illegal. When it comes to NFL players during the off-season, sometimes that's the best you can hope for. There's no such thing as inside a motorcycle. Even if it's one with 3 wheels.
Green Lightning Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 A CCW permit means keep it concealed unless you pull it to defend life and liberty. So what he did was stupid. But cutting him is just too knee jerk. He continues to do stupid things, then cut him, but not for this. There's lots of good citizens in that locker room that can help him mature. I just wish our guys would stay out of trouble and not get suspended every damn year.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Because....he's an idiot. I get what all you constitutin gun toters are sayin. The guy tried to get noggin and got set up. Then waves his piece. He should borrow Colin's socks. Bye bye..this isn't Reggie White here. Oh yeah?
#34fan Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Someone let me know if they find any loopholes that could re-instate Karlos Williams!
Gugny Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Someone let me know if they find any loopholes that could re-instate Karlos Williams! Get rid of Goodell and have the Broncos sign him.
YoloinOhio Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Maybe someone from Ohio can clear this up, but I'm pretty sure the issue is that a conceal carry does not apply to a handgun that is visible while inside a vehicle. So they're basically getting him with a technicality that won't result in any legal ramifications besides a fine. So, in that case, I don't think it would result in a suspension either. Also, and I may be wrong again, but didn't Ohio just pass a law that closed this loophole? i.e. handguns in vehicles will now fall under the legal domain of conceal carry? Maybe it hadn't taken effect when he got nailed, but I thought this was a recent legislation. Anyway, brandishing your handgun in a parking lot in front of cops is seriously stupid, but not necessarily illegal. When it comes to NFL players during the off-season, sometimes that's the best you can hope for. He was supposed to either keep it concealed, or tell the police that he had it before they saw it. He apparently did neither. Tons of people with a CC permit carry guns in their cars everywhere. So that's not out of the ordinary. He took it out and they saw it, that's the issue. I don't know why he took it out but I assume it had something to do with why there were cops trying to clear out the parking lot of Splash Cincy at 10 pm. Edited July 12, 2017 by YoloinOhio
Gugny Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 He was supposed to either keep it concealed, or tell the police that he had it before they saw it. He apparently did neither. Tons of people with a CC permit carry guns in their cars everywhere. So that's not out of the ordinary. He took it out and they saw it, that's the issue. I don't know why he took it out but I assume it had something to do with why there were cops trying to clear out the parking lot of Splash Cincy at 10 pm. The only logical explanation I can think of is that he removed it from his motorcycle to carry it on his person whilst perusing the water park. Upon returning to the bike, he removed the gun to put it back into whatever compartment trikes might have and he was caught.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 There's a whole lot of ignorance in this thread It wouldn't exist without Washington's ignorance of the law in the first place, right?
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Everything I read says that Washington "reached for and displayed the firearm in front of officers". I simply feel like none of us know the entire story. Imo there is probably more to the story. None of it likely flattering for Washington. Responsible firearm ownership is great. Unfortunately I think too many pro athletes are the opposite of that. Many of these guys own firearms for all the wrong reasons.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Everything I read says that Washington "reached for and displayed the firearm in front of officers". I simply feel like none of us know the entire story. Imo there is probably more to the story. None of it likely flattering for Washington. Responsible firearm ownership is great. Unfortunately I think too many pro athletes are the opposite of that. Many of these guys own firearms for all the wrong reasons. Careful not to assume the worst. It appears, based on everything that has been reported, that AW's actions weren't all that egregious. Let's wait and see before we condemn the man.
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