Bray Wyatt Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 the charge reversal didnt cost the cavs the game it tied it up and they got the ball back still. For everyone complaining about the calls, the cavs still controlled their destiny in regulation and couldnt get it done. Hill missed the free throw, then jr compounded that with being dumb. Then they didnt show up in OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Rockpile233 said: The reason I like the NBA is that I don’t have any real rooting interests and can just enjoy a competitive exciting game. I was extremely entertained last night, good game from start to finish. In real time I thought it was a block and after replay I still think that. Lebron’s right foot was still moving when contact took place. At best you can argue it was the same time, which with my understanding of the rule favors the offensive player. The reasoning behind the review seems bogus, but I think the right call was made. JR is so weak trying to act like he knew it was tied. One of the worst blunders I’ve ever seen. Once again though, extremely entertained last night. Hope every game is like this and it will be a great series. His foot moving is irrelevant if he established a legal guarding position which is why everybody, including the on air NBA official, thought the call should have stood. Cleveland got jobbed on that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, K-9 said: His foot moving is irrelevant if he established a legal guarding position which is why everybody, including the on air NBA official, thought the call should have stood. Cleveland got jobbed on that call. why do you torture yourself thinking you have a rule that is etched in stone? they do whatever they want with the call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, K-9 said: His foot moving is irrelevant if he established a legal guarding position which is why everybody, including the on air NBA official, thought the call should have stood. Cleveland got jobbed on that call. I just don’t see how he clearly beat Durant to the spot. It seems they got there at the same time, which would favor the offensive player. The on air official is irrelevant, we’ve all watched NFL games and it’s laughable how off they often are. The on court officials ruled it another way. I already granted that the reason for review in the first place was bogus so I could understand feeling screwed in that regard. I don’t think “everybody” is in agreement on anything. The officials disagreed, there is a variety of opinions in this very thread, and I’m hearing people at work today disagree. I personally saw and still see a blocking foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: the charge reversal didnt cost the cavs the game It likely did. They would have had the ball and the lead. The fact they made other mistakes afterwards doesn't discount the fact they lost 2 points on the reversal. The lesson, as always: instant reply is the worst thing to ever happen to sports. And it didn't matter if you thought it was a block or a charge. It was close enough where either would have been a reasonable call and looking at it in slow-mo didn't provide any better evidence of one vs the other. The fact is the refs made a call and there was no compelling reason to overturn it. That they randomly pick one play to reverse but ignore other close calls (Durant getting foul calls on what appeared to be clean strips twice late in the game) is about as far away from "getting it right" as you can be. It's a shame this mindless pursuit of micro-managing the game had to mar what was otherwise a fantastic game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: I just don’t see how he clearly beat Durant to the spot. It seems they got there at the same time, which would favor the offensive player. The on air official is irrelevant, we’ve all watched NFL games and it’s laughable how off they often are. The on court officials ruled it another way. I already granted that the reason for review in the first place was bogus so I could understand feeling screwed in that regard. I don’t think “everybody” is in agreement on anything. The officials disagreed, there is a variety of opinions in this very thread, and I’m hearing people at work today disagree. I personally saw and still see a blocking foul. he didn't establish himself in time watching it in super-slo-mo might make you think he did but with a brain stem you then remember it is in super-slo-mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I believe he said something that he was already off the bench trying to check in or something, which if that was the case I can see why they wouldnt. Tristan Thompson on the other hand probably should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 LeBron will tell Silver what the suspensions will be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, row_33 said: LeBron will tell Silver what the suspensions will be. Game one was pretty exciting I wonder what the league powers have in store for game 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Game one was pretty exciting I wonder what the league powers have in store for game 2. that was a good game, it wasn't top speed, but the Warriors and LeBron were excusably tired after their game 7s. Cavs had their chance there... if Van Gundy wasn't being dragged on the foot of a combatant it wasn't a real fight. that was nothing last night, that wasn't Dawkins/Lucas or Laimbeer/Sir Charles or Wilt trying to club Sam Jones with a chair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Well now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Rockpile233 said: I just don’t see how he clearly beat Durant to the spot. It seems they got there at the same time, which would favor the offensive player. The on air official is irrelevant, we’ve all watched NFL games and it’s laughable how off they often are. The on court officials ruled it another way. I already granted that the reason for review in the first place was bogus so I could understand feeling screwed in that regard. I don’t think “everybody” is in agreement on anything. The officials disagreed, there is a variety of opinions in this very thread, and I’m hearing people at work today disagree. I personally saw and still see a blocking foul. I agree that the on air official couldn’t be more irrelevant, but Steve Javie’s opinion is far more informed than most. The refs needed to see if LeBron was in the restricted area, so I understand the need to review the play in that regard. But the judgement call on the blocking foul went too far and the original call shlould have stood. If it weren’t in the last two minutes the refs would have been precluded from doing so in the first place. As much of a bullschit call as can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Poor LeBron maybe got a call wrong against him, he's only up 54,433 brutal calls in his favour now? he forgot to flop and grab his head and roll 26 feet to sell the call 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: why do you torture yourself thinking you have a rule that is etched in stone? they do whatever they want with the call... I don’t torture myself in the least. You shouldn’t concern yourself so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) It was a clear block. the defender MUST take it clean in the chest after establishing position. Lebron was shying away ,didn’t want to take the full charge block Edited June 1, 2018 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It was a clear block. the defender MUST take it clean in the chest after establishing position. Lebron was shying away ,didn’t want to take the full charge block This is what I saw on the replay, he started to turn away from the contact. When I saw it live I thought it was a charge, but after review I thought it was a block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It was a clear block. the defender MUST take it clean in the chest after establishing position. Lebron was shying away ,didn’t want to take the full charge block It’s a judgement call. Can you point me to the section of the rule book that says “the defender must take it clean in the chest after establishing position?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: It’s a judgement call. Can you point me to the section of the rule book that says “the defender must take it clean in the chest after establishing position?” From the rule book “To get into a legal position defending against the dribble, the defender needs to get his torso directly in the path and beat him to the spot.” Torso includes chest and Lebrons chest was not directly in the path. He was shying away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts