John from Riverside Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 how would DT know? I mean he couldn't know more than some on this board, could he? Stealing this!
Agent 91 Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 I cant get excited about an Alabama player. They tend to come to the league and blend in or underwhelm. I have a hard time naming a star from Bama. If he works out good of not.... OK. 2 first rounders this year.Eh a stretch he was drafted where he was but second rounders are usually starters too so lets see whatbwe get out of him
John from Riverside Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 I cant get excited about an Alabama player. They tend to come to the league and blend in or underwhelm. I have a hard time naming a star from Bama. If he works out good of not.... OK. 2 first rounders this year.Eh a stretch he was drafted where he was but second rounders are usually starters too so lets see whatbwe get out of him Yes Dante Hightower Ruben Foster CJ Mosely Courtney Upshaw they have all been aweful
Agent 91 Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Yes Dante Hightower Ruben Foster CJ Mosely Courtney Upshaw they have all been aweful Ruben Foster hasnt played a down yet and Hightower is in the hoodies D. Je made Rob Ninkovich relevant. Like i said John. There havent been many. That team is a perennial powerhouse with no dificiencies.... you named some ok ones. Upshaw and Moseley are no sure misses. Hell even Hightower is a system fit. for those 4 you named what about Rolando McClain, Javier Arenas,Mark Barron, Dee Milner, Dre Kirkpatrick. Hell even our own Marcell Dareus. none of these names. ON DEFENSE proved to be world beaters. John Im just saying Alabama is almost like the New England of college. Lets look at the offense too... Henry, Yeldon, Richardson, McCarron, Andre Smith, both Kuandjio's. John im not saying they automatically suck im just saying that because they came from Alabama. I personally dont give them the nod. They dont transition the way I expect. Edited July 16, 2017 by Agent 91
Kemp Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 That's why Brady was drafted in the 6th and Wilson in the 3rd, and Favre and Brees in the 2nd, Montana in the 3rd. Wow! Ragland is better than Tom Brady!!!
CommonCents Posted July 16, 2017 Posted July 16, 2017 Ruben Foster hasnt played a down yet and Hightower is in the hoodies D. Je made Rob Ninkovich relevant. Like i said John. There havent been many. That team is a perennial powerhouse with no dificiencies.... you named some ok ones. Upshaw and Moseley are no sure misses. Hell even Hightower is a system fit. for those 4 you named what about Rolando McClain, Javier Arenas,Mark Barron, Dee Milner, Dre Kirkpatrick. Hell even our own Marcell Dareus. none of these names. ON DEFENSE proved to be world beaters. John Im just saying Alabama is almost like the New England of college. Lets look at the offense too... Henry, Yeldon, Richardson, McCarron, Andre Smith, both Kuandjio's. John im not saying they automatically suck im just saying that because they came from Alabama. I personally dont give them the nod. They dont transition the way I expect. Alabama has more players drafted than most any other college so it's easy to pick out a list of guys who haven't turned into superstars at the next level. I think a lot of it has to do with how finely tuned Saban's football factory is, its BBesque. Cyrus Jones, Fluker, and on on you can add to that list. Then we overlook guys like Ryan Kelly, Amari Cooper who come right in are as pro ready as can be and playing a pivotal position. In short, I think the Alabama player thing has some truth to it but it's very player specific. What type of injuries did they play through? Who were they surrounded by? How did they test at the combine? Same as any other school I suppose.
Agent 91 Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 Alabama has more players drafted than most any other college so it's easy to pick out a list of guys who haven't turned into superstars at the next level. I think a lot of it has to do with how finely tuned Saban's football factory is, its BBesque. Cyrus Jones, Fluker, and on on you can add to that list. Then we overlook guys like Ryan Kelly, Amari Cooper who come right in are as pro ready as can be and playing a pivotal position. In short, I think the Alabama player thing has some truth to it but it's very player specific. What type of injuries did they play through? Who were they surrounded by? How did they test at the combine? Same as any other school I suppose. That's fair but it is also fair to not assume that because he went to Alabama he is a difference maker. Like you said there are more players who we can name who busted out. But how many dominant players at that school came in and were ordinary at best. I was just stating that what he did at bama doesnt matter when trying to project his translation to the league
eball Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 That's fair but it is also fair to not assume that because he went to Alabama he is a difference maker. Like you said there are more players who we can name who busted out. But how many dominant players at that school came in and were ordinary at best. I was just stating that what he did at bama doesnt matter when trying to project his translation to the league What one should assume is that a player coming from Alabama understands discipline, structure, and the concept of team-before-individual. Those are important points.
BringBackOrton Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 What one should assume is that a player coming from Alabama understands discipline, structure, and the concept of team-before-individual. Those are important points. CC: Dareus.
eball Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 CC: Dareus. One can come up with the exception to every rule. And I still say Dareus has/had much more going on in his life than most kids.
BringBackOrton Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 One can come up with the exception to every rule. And I still say Dareus has/had much more going on in his life than most kids. CC: Rolando McClain.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 17, 2017 Posted July 17, 2017 I cant get excited about an Alabama player. They tend to come to the league and blend in or underwhelm. I have a hard time naming a star from Bama. If he works out good of not.... OK. 2 first rounders this year.Eh a stretch he was drafted where he was but second rounders are usually starters too so lets see whatbwe get out of him I'm assuming you mean defenders? Julio Jones and Amari Cooper are both really good.
26CornerBlitz Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 @RobQuinn619 Bills LB Reggie Ragland 'ready to go,' reveals weight clause in contract http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/07/21/buffalo-bills-training-camp-reggie-ragland-weight/
John from Riverside Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 The weight requirement is a excellent idea......he tends to get heavy and being heavy wont be conducive to the injury (which should be healed by now but still)
YoloinOhio Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Reggie Ragland looking to catch up in transition to new Bills defense by SiriusXM NFL Radio Staff July 24, 2017 http://blog.siriusxm.com/2017/07/24/reggie-ragland-looking-to-catch-up-in-transition-to-new-bills-defense/
3rdand12 Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Reggie Ragland looking to catch up in transition to new Bills defense by SiriusXM NFL Radio Staff July 24, 2017 http://blog.siriusxm.com/2017/07/24/reggie-ragland-looking-to-catch-up-in-transition-to-new-bills-defense/ so now he is fat and not studying either. this should go well. we need to have that superfine "heavy sarcasm" as a option for emotes !! Still fan of RR. I have no issue with Preston Brown getting back to form btw and starting Edited July 25, 2017 by 3rdand12
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 so now he is fat and not studying either. this should go well. we need to have that superfine "heavy sarcasm" as a option for emotes !! Still fan of RR. I have no issue with Preston Brown getting back to form btw and starting
Bill from NYC Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 Yes Dante Hightower Ruben Foster CJ Mosely Courtney Upshaw they have all been aweful Julio Jones and Amari Cooper suck too.
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