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I'm extremely excited about Tyrod and the prospect of having continuity at the QB position and at OC and HC for the next few years at least--hopefully for a decade or two.

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Is it possible to own two sport franchises in the same city?

 

Is it acceptable to use ranch on your wings?

My questions should elicit a response that could immediately point out a troll.

 

Yes or No answers are well vapid. no offense.

 

Yes and Why the hell would you put that stuff on perfectly good Wings.

 

In all seriousness they would make a good anti bot query. (for some reason I had issues typing in Fitzpatrick when I registered)

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'4 Downs' Buffalo Bills' 2017 player to watch: QB Tyrod Taylor (1:36)
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He's an outstanding athlete. I just noticed that Mariota was rated in the top 50, and his stats are marginally better than Tyrod....and Tyrod is a much better runner. He's had some bad moments, but for several games he was throwing to our 5th stringer and 3 street free agents. If we have a healthy core group of targets for him, I believe he'll be fine.

 

Why did he take a pay cut, or rephrased, why did the Bills cut his pay? Because they agreed to. This will be his year, and I expect him to play excellent football. Besides the obvious top 8 guys, who else in this league would you rather have taking snaps for our team?

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Besides the obvious top 8 guys, who else in this league would you rather have taking snaps for our team?

If you mean besides Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Wilson, and Luck, I'd take Newton, Carr, Prescott, Mariota, Winston, Manning, Cousins, Stafford, and Wentz right away. Tannehill, Smith, Flacco are pushes for me.

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If you mean besides Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Wilson, and Luck, I'd take Newton, Carr, Prescott, Mariota, Winston, Manning, Cousins, Stafford, and Wentz right away. Tannehill, Smith, Flacco are pushes for me.

 

 

why didn't you just come out and say you don't support the bills QB?

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why didn't you just come out and say you don't support the bills QB?

Just answering his question.

 

Do you have a response, or are you just going to get hurt feelings over this?

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Just answering his question.

 

Do you have a response, or are you just going to get hurt feelings over this?

 

feelings hurt?

 

no, can not respond as I don't need the warning point but I assure you wouldn't like it. stick to fishing kid, it better suits you then to be making the false assumptions as you have...

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feelings hurt?

 

no, can not respond as I don't need the warning point but I assure you wouldn't like it. stick to fishing kid, it better suits you then to make the false assumptions as you have...

So...nothing substantive on the question I was answering, that had literally nothing to do with you or my 'support' for Taylor. Carry on.

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If you mean besides Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Wilson, and Luck, I'd take Newton, Carr, Prescott, Mariota, Winston, Manning, Cousins, Stafford, and Wentz right away. Tannehill, Smith, Flacco are pushes for me.

Well sir....lets take a look at that list

 

Newton is coming off a pretty down year where he showed some nasty attitude as a leader.......and while I would take him the margin between the two is slim because you need some leadership intangibles to play the positin.

 

Carr is gonna be in that front list very soon.....the kid is going to be very good.

 

Prescott has had ONE year of stats that are marginally better then tyrods playing behind the best OL in the league with the 2nd best running game with pass catchers that have far surpassed what TT has had to work with

 

Marriotta has the potential to be a top QB in the NFL

 

Before Winston is listed as a "good" qb he needs to stop throwing the ball to the other team.....he posseses the skills but man is he a turnover machine

 

Manning.....top QB

 

Cousins.....I think there is a debate here....if this guy was a franchise guy he would have his contract by now. To me Cousins is a push

 

Stafford....they guy is a gifted passer. He also has a bad habit of making very bad in game decisions...but frankly he is all that the lions have (which is interesting...because the last 2 years Tyrod is all the BILLS have had.....they they produce in different ways)

 

Wentz.....started strong.....tailed off badly as the season went on in his FIRST year....this guy could improve or regress

 

I mean....TT is not a franchise guy like some on this list and is a total system qb.....but finding guys that wont **** the bed and lose the game for you are even hard to find. Tyrod Taylor has some things that he does better then anyone else in the league in his own right.

 

I just need to see how those talents translate to Dennison's offense....there is a reason we aquired 2 first round pick in next year's draft.

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Considering what Tyrod had to deal with, half his offense injured, ribs, was, ol,bi don't care if Brady was here he couldn't do any better. Last year the offense was a little, I mean a little healthier but much more effective, as the writer said a few stops by the defense, Miami, Seattle and Oakland, we could have won ten games. Our offense averaged near 28 point a game but our defense couldn't stop a high school team with dumb and dumber so defense. This year we have a coach who will demand discipline and fundamentals, and a business like attitude. More concentration no more lackadaisical plays that cUse penalties. Accountability. To the team, fans and most of all each other. That is the foundation and character of a winning football organizations.

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He's an outstanding athlete. I just noticed that Mariota was rated in the top 50, and his stats are marginally better than Tyrod....and Tyrod is a much better runner. He's had some bad moments, but for several games he was throwing to our 5th stringer and 3 street free agents. If we have a healthy core group of targets for him, I believe he'll be fine.

 

Why did he take a pay cut, or rephrased, why did the Bills cut his pay? Because they agreed to. This will be his year, and I expect him to play excellent football. Besides the obvious top 8 guys, who else in this league would you rather have taking snaps for our team?

 

While I agree that there were very few options for the Bills that would have been better than TT this offseason - there are many QB's I would rather see under center for the Bills than TT if I had my choices.

 

For me without a doubt or a second of hesitation I would take:

Brees

Ryan

Brady

Rodgers

Luck

Wilson

Roethlisberger

Carr

Both Manning Brothers

Newton

Rivers

Stafford

 

Guys I would take, but with slight hesitation:

Palmer

Cousins

Flacco

Dalton

Winston

Prescott

Mariota

Romo

 

Guys on par - I could go either way:

Wentz

Tannehill

Bradford

Cutler

Garoppolo

Lynch

Smith

Moore

 

Guys I would not even look at - having TT as my QB:

McCown

Fitzpatrick

RGIII

Goff

Kapernick

Siemian

Hoyer

Kessler

Barkley

Osweiler

Bortles

 

 

I have TT in a third tier with a group of other QBs right around where most of his rankings come out around 20th in the league. He is starter caliber, but he is not what I view as a long term answer. I hated the idea of Mahomes in the draft, but that was probably the one chance for a potential upgrade this offseason was in the draft.

 

Once that passed by TT is really the only option we have and I will root for him every Sunday he starts just as I have the last 2 years as he has been the best option, but I just do not expect much out of him. He will make some plays and limit mistakes and puts us in the middle of the NFL pack one of 12-15 teams that with the right breaks makes the playoffs and the wrong breaks ends up 6-10.

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While I agree that there were very few options for the Bills that would have been better than TT this offseason - there are many QB's I would rather see under center for the Bills than TT if I had my choices.

 

For me without a doubt or a second of hesitation I would take:

Brees

Ryan

Brady

Rodgers

Luck

Wilson

Roethlisberger

Carr

Both Manning Brothers

Newton

Rivers

Stafford

 

Guys I would take, but with slight hesitation:

Palmer The guy that almost retired this year?

Cousins

Flacco

Dalton no way

Winston interception machine

Prescott perfect situation

Mariota

Romo The guy that DID retire this year?

 

Guys on par - I could go either way:

Wentz

Tannehill

Bradford

Cutler

Garoppolo

Lynch

Smith

Moore

 

Guys I would not even look at - having TT as my QB:

McCown

Fitzpatrick

RGIII

Goff

Kapernick

Siemian

Hoyer

Kessler

Barkley

Osweiler

 

I have TT in a third tier with a group of other QBs right around where most of his rankings come out around 20th in the league. He is starter caliber, but he is not what I view as a long term answer. I hated the idea of Mahomes in the draft, but that was probably the one chance for a potential upgrade this offseason was in the draft.

 

Once that passed by TT is really the only option we have and I will root for him every Sunday he starts just as I have the last 2 years as he has been the best option, but I just do not expect much out of him. He will make some plays and limit mistakes and puts us in the middle of the NFL pack one of 12-15 teams that with the right breaks makes the playoffs and the wrong breaks ends up 6-10.

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While I agree that there were very few options for the Bills that would have been better than TT this offseason - there are many QB's I would rather see under center for the Bills than TT if I had my choices.

For me without a doubt or a second of hesitation I would take:

Brees

Ryan

Brady

Rodgers

Luck

Wilson

Roethlisberger

Carr

Both Manning Brothers

Newton

Rivers

Stafford

Guys I would take, but with slight hesitation:

Palmer The guy that almost retired this year?

Cousins

Flacco

Dalton no way

Winston interception machine

Prescott perfect situation

Mariota

Romo The guy that DID retire this year?

Guys on par - I could go either way:

Wentz

Tannehill

Bradford

Cutler

Garoppolo

Lynch

Smith

Moore

Guys I would not even look at - having TT as my QB:

McCown

Fitzpatrick

RGIII

Goff

Kapernick

Siemian

Hoyer

Kessler

Barkley

Osweiler

I have TT in a third tier with a group of other QBs right around where most of his rankings come out around 20th in the league. He is starter caliber, but he is not what I view as a long term answer. I hated the idea of Mahomes in the draft, but that was probably the one chance for a potential upgrade this offseason was in the draft.

Once that passed by TT is really the only option we have and I will root for him every Sunday he starts just as I have the last 2 years as he has been the best option, but I just do not expect much out of him. He will make some plays and limit mistakes and puts us in the middle of the NFL pack one of 12-15 teams that with the right breaks makes the playoffs and the wrong breaks ends up 6-10.

 

Yes to all those questions - if I could get Palmer or Romo or Manning to come here I would start them all over TT. I understand they left or have almost left the game and I still think they are better QBs than 1/2 the league - not for a lot longer, but a for the coming year - I would take them.

 

I think both Prescott and Winston are significantly better NFL QBs than TT - they have fewer years in the league and I would much rather have either one as my QB.

 

Guys like Dalton and Newton are guys not much better than TT, but both have lead their team to the playoffs multiple times - so yes - I would take both of those guys over TT straight up.

 

Those are my opinions - they may not match yours, but my guess is many are close - you may slide some guys up or down, but probably have TT around the middle rather than top 10 like the guy I responded to.

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Yes to all those questions - if I could get Palmer or Romo or Manning to come here I would start them all over TT. I understand they left or have almost left the game and I still think they are better QBs than 1/2 the league - not for a lot longer, but a for the coming year - I would take them.

 

I think both Prescott and Winston are significantly better NFL QBs than TT - they have fewer years in the league and I would much rather have either one as my QB.

 

Guys like Dalton and Newton are guys not much better than TT, but both have lead their team to the playoffs multiple times - so yes - I would take both of those guys over TT straight up.

 

Those are my opinions - they may not match yours, but my guess is many are close - you may slide some guys up or down, but probably have TT around the middle rather than top 10 like the guy I responded to.

Think you left out Bortles.

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Yes to all those questions - if I could get Palmer or Romo or Manning to come here I would start them all over TT. I understand they left or have almost left the game and I still think they are better QBs than 1/2 the league - not for a lot longer, but a for the coming year - I would take them.

 

I think both Prescott and Winston are significantly better NFL QBs than TT - they have fewer years in the league and I would much rather have either one as my QB.

 

Guys like Dalton and Newton are guys not much better than TT, but both have lead their team to the playoffs multiple times - so yes - I would take both of those guys over TT straight up.

 

Those are my opinions - they may not match yours, but my guess is many are close - you may slide some guys up or down, but probably have TT around the middle rather than top 10 like the guy I responded to.

Your list is pretty fair if you ask me. One thing I couldn't over look on that list is Peyton Manning. That dude can barely throw 5 yards now. No way would I take him over TT at this point. I don't care how good his mind is.

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Think you left out Bortles.

He was added, but after John had made the quote.

Your list is pretty fair if you ask me. One thing I couldn't over look on that list is Peyton Manning. That dude can barely throw 5 yards now. No way would I take him over TT at this point. I don't care how good his mind is.

You may be right - he was pretty shot his last year and yet won the Super Bowl and beat Brady in the playoffs.

 

Yes he had the best defense, but he still made plays in the playoffs to help them win and I think with a great running attack - he could play action more and make some plays or maybe he would crap the bed.

 

Maybe - I move him to the hesitate a bit group, but I still think I would start him over TT at this point if I could get either one.

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