Pirate Angel Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Something to add to this conversation What people are not talking about are two things Offensive line....this is a VERY good run blocking offensive line across the board.....even Jordan Mills is a decent run blocker and Dawkins has the power to be even better Instead of going away from the FB they actually doubled down on it with one that might be an even better lead blocker and is more versitile Style of play.....I feel like Denver's run schemes last year were ideally suited for a one cut runner...that is exactly what Jon Williams is. Shady fits any offensive scheme.... Right you are..gone are the days of Melvin Fowler, Tuten Reyes, Mike Gandy, and others than make me want to throw up when I think of them forming an offensive line.....How has our record not improved since those days???
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Keep him for 2.7 million and see how it plays out. Letting him walk for a 5th round pick and replacing him with bupkis is not a plan. I don't think that was the plan. I think the plan was to extend him for less than he got.
NewEra Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 This article is a perfect example of Mike Rodak. Not sure how he has a job. Maybe it's because some fans actually click on his articles
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 This article is a perfect example of Mike Rodak. Not sure how he has a job. Maybe it's because some fans actually click on his articles Some people feel compelled to tell him how bad his takes are. ESPN sees views and comments and gives him a raise.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Some people feel compelled to tell him how bad his takes are. ESPN sees views and comments and gives him a raise. And its making their product worse and worse. They have 11 channels that i never watch - im switching to fios and i don't have it anymore. Kind of a relief. Unfortunately my fantasy baseball is through ESPN so i have to go there a few times a day.
NewEra Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Some people feel compelled to tell him how bad his takes are. ESPN sees views and comments and gives him a raise. Yep. I haven't clicked on one in a year+. Please guys, don't click and comment. Just let him disappear.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 And its making their product worse and worse. They have 11 channels that i never watch - im switching to fios and i don't have it anymore. Kind of a relief. Unfortunately my fantasy baseball is through ESPN so i have to go there a few times a day. I don't mind their website as a whole, as I can choose what I actually view (and that isn't Rodak). I don't watch any of their stations unless live sports are on them.
NoSaint Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) You mean besides everyone? Look, I'm not even one of the guys crying about losing Gillislee, but there's no way in hell I expect Tolbert to be the #2 HB. I think most pro-MG people were worried that if JW didn't work (coin flip there) suddenly this was the case. If rushing is truly our identity, it's a pretty solid concern if you don't assume the best for JW and count him as just a maybe. When looking at what makes the engine run for a team, it sure is nice to have some sort of known commodity at backup. Edited June 14, 2017 by NoSaint
hondo in seattle Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Here's what I was talking about. Credit Jeff Ratcliffe Good playcalling? Good scheme? Good blocking? Quick, decisive backs hitting holes pronto? I think it was more scheme than anything else. And that worries me with a change in scheme this year.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Good playcalling? Good scheme? Good blocking? Quick, decisive backs hitting holes pronto? Yes
Shaw66 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Not sure why having a 'change of pace' back is so important to some fans. You are saying Gillislee ran the same as McCoy, it seemed to work well. If something is working, why should we 'change the pace' - just keep running the ball the way you are. Of course. But if you can't have a guy like Gillislee, a mediocre runner has an edge if he has a different style, because the defense is set up to stop McCoys style.
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) And that worries me with a change in scheme this year. For what it's worth, the Bills ran IZ/OZ on 49% of their designed runs last year. Denver under Rico/Kubiak was at 71.5%. A shift but not a huge one. https://twitter.com/JeffRatcliffe/status/841624928843661312 Highest % of OZ runs, Denver (where the OC was) and Baltimore (where the OL coach was). Edited June 14, 2017 by Blokestradamus
cantankerous Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 There's no way in hell he'll be the #2. That's an awful idea.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 There's no way in hell he'll be the #2. That's an awful idea. He's the best blocking back in pass protection. Sorry guy - but he's probably going to see the field a bunch this year. And he's a big fall forward style chain mover. I think we can use a guy like that.
John from Riverside Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 He's the best blocking back in pass protection. Sorry guy - but he's probably going to see the field a bunch this year. And he's a big fall forward style chain mover. I think we can use a guy like that. I think he is a goaline short yardage back
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I think he is a goaline short yardage back and looking at our depth chart - probably the most likely 3rd down back.
Just Joshin' Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 and looking at our depth chart - probably the most likely 3rd down back. Really - over McCoy? I would rather a back stay on the field for a series and get his rest by taking a series off.
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2017 Author Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Tolbert is ... intimidating. The Toldozer is huge! I like him. First time I got a look at him with Bills watching the game replay right now. Didn't realize how big he is. Can still run too (and the blocking ) Edited August 11, 2017 by YoloinOhio
Andrew Son Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Tolbert is ... intimidating. The Toldozer is huge! I like him. First time I got a look at him with Bills watching the game replay right now. Didn't realize how big he is. Can still run too. With great feet and quickness as well! Interesting player for sure. Will be a fan favorite.
chris heff Posted August 11, 2017 Posted August 11, 2017 Tolbert is ... intimidating. The Toldozer is huge! I like him. First time I got a look at him with Bills watching the game replay right now. Didn't realize how big he is. Can still run too (and the blocking ) He needed to pickup that third and one. That's what he is here to do.
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