JohnBonhamRocks Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Anquan Boldin has been undervalued most, if not all, of his career. No reason to think, even at 36, that he'll start not to prove everyone wrong. The guy's a pro's pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I would like Boldin here, he can still play. He has said he's going to wait it out though and be very selective - I don't see much reason to think he would come here. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 We just waived a TE. (Annen). Barnidge signing coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 We just waived a TE. (Annen). Barnidge signing coming? In the interest of not derailing this thread, that topic is being discussed in the OTA thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 In the interest of not derailing this thread, that topic is being discussed in the OTA thread. ok, please strike my previous comment from the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 We just waived a TE. (Annen). Barnidge signing coming? it crossed my mind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Trade for Kelvin Benjamin instead. He can play tackle too in a pinch, McD loves versatility.this guy is going to be out of the league in 2 years or less Watching coverage on fat Benjamin is hilarious. Fans clamouring it is because they need him at tight end. Why? I guess their TE Olsen must be terrible and they have stud WR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 @SalSports McDermott on Decker: "Until that comes through via the league we can't discuss. We're aways going to look, to add...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 If he signs with the Ravens they will end up being very lucky. They will add two starting wide outs in June . Huge upgrade for them . The Bills could use a little of that luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 @jeffzrebiecsun Harbaugh said a lot of factors will go into deciding whether to pursue Eric Decker. Said Newsome will make that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 If he signs with the Ravens they will end up being very lucky. They will add two starting wide outs in June . Huge upgrade for them . The Bills could use a little of that luck Well...Breaking a 17 year non Playoff streak will go a long way in changing that kind of luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Decker would be a nice addition. I think we are also looking at adding a S or DE. Big depth issues at those positions IMO. Also, lets get on it people. This thread is only 7 pages long. No way Decker comes here till we top 100!! Edited June 13, 2017 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 How is signing players lucky? They are making necessary moves to improve their team. The Bills don't want to apparently or they don't feel the money is worth it. i think the Bills want to see what they have in Zay Jones and Andre Holmes. they could have had Maclin if they really wanted him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Holmes is a proven 4th WR option in the league. I think the Bills and the entire league has "seen what he has". Zay Jones would be set up better if he was in the slot to start his NFL career. Bills could've added a big addition to their depth. Not sure how muh money played a part, but it usually always does. If you have to franchise/plan to extend watkins - carrying over a little cap space is pretty important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Holmes is a proven 4th WR option in the league. I think the Bills and the entire league has "seen what he has". Zay Jones would be set up better if he was in the slot to start his NFL career. Bills could've added a big addition to their depth. Not sure how muh money played a part, but it usually always does. well Maclin signed a 2 year 11 million deal. rumors were we were offering 1 year at 4.5 million. so we were in the ballpark but it was the extra year that got it done presumably. he wanted more guaranteed money from us was what I heard but the team was probably reluctant because he has been injury prone and they are fresh off the failed Percy Harvin experiment. probably tired of paying injured WR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I'd be ok with that, or if the Ravens sign Decker too, I imagine them releasing Mike Wallace. He'd fill the roll Maclin was just going to have although I'm not sure he's a McD type player. I like that thought. Tyrod has a phenomenal deep sideline ball. As soon as you have targets on both sidelines they cannot just roll the FS to Watkins automatically. They had it figured out with Harvin... just couldn't keep them both on the field. So basically you need a compliment on the other sideline that can also separate deep and run some decent patterns underneath to prevent the corners from just backing off 15 yards. Basically a woods and Goodwin hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) who do you think NFL players think is a better qb- Flacco or Tyrod? I don't think the difference is a wide of margin as you think amongst people inside the NFL. Yes, I agree Flacco is probably more often than not going to be picked as the better QB, especially with a SB on his resume. But lets be real, they had a lot of fortunate things happen for that to be possible (should have never made the SB but blown coverages gave them a late gift) and he's done very little since and his numbers are not that great either. Who do you think causes more problems for DC to game plan for? I promise you its not Flacco whose leads a medicore offense where Tyrod is the most dangerous QB in the NFL while running, is more efficient, and leads a substantially higher scoring offense. And most of what Tyrod has accomplished has been with a substantially worse group of receiving weapons as Sammy has barely been healthy the 2 years Tyrod played, yet he is still more efficient, better rating, way less turnovers, etc. So I don't think the gap between them amongst his peers is as big as you think it is. In fact, I will say it right now...I think Tyrod will have a better year (again) than Flacco this year. He will have more total TD's, less INT's, and lead a higher scoring offense than what Baltimore will do this year. Lets look at them side by side the last 2 years: Total TD's TT: 29 games: 47 TD's (1.62 per game) JF: 26 Games: 39 TD's (1.5 per game) Tyrods Better Total Turnovers TT: 29 games: 19 (0.65 per game) JF: 26 Games 31 (1.19 per game) Tyrods a LOT better Comp % TT: 29 games: 62.6% JF: 26 Games: 64.7% Flacco's Slightly Better Total Yards Per Game TT: 29 games: 248.5 yards JF: 26 Games: 276.5 yards Joe is Better - but looking at the next 2 stats, way less efficient in getting those yards and comes from sheer VOLUME over efficiency. Yards Per Attempt TT: 29 games: 7.42 Yards JF: 26 Games: 6.57 yards Tyrods a Lot Better Average Attempts Per Game TT: 29 games: 28.1 Att/game JF: 26 Games: 41.5 Att/game Flacco throws the ball 13.4 more times per game than TT while TT rushes for 5.6 more times for a net gain of 7.8 MORE combined attempts per game by Flacco and yet only averages 28 more total yards per game on those extra attempts. Average Points Per Game (only games they were the QB in) TT: 29 games: 24.7 per game (15 games in 2016 = 25.9) JF: 26 games: 21.9 per game (16 games in 2016 = 21.4) Tyrods team a LOT better (despite Baltimore having better WR's and a much better defense). Career QB Rating: TT: 92.3 JF: 84.5 Tyrods significantly higher So you guys can sit back here and say whatever you want, but the FACTS remain that Tyrod has been the better QB the last 2 years with WAY worse coaching, and less talent to throw to due to the injuries that plagued our receivers the last 2 years. If Flacco had NOT won the SB, his status would not be nearly as high as it is, his on field production has been middle of the road outside that one improbable run. And I didn't even bother to identify that massive difference running the ball by TT compared to Flacco as its not even worth comparing as TT is a million times more dangerous and productive at that. And the funny thing is this: I am not even making a case for Tyrod over Flacco...I am just identifying that the margin isn't nearly as big as some of you want to make it out to be, and that Tyrod (whether you want to believe it or not) gets more respect from his peers than people here do and hasn't been remotely as bad as the nay sayers paint him to be. Especially when you consider the poor coaching and poor health at the WR position. Edited June 13, 2017 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I don't think the difference is a wide of margin as you think amongst people inside the NFL. Yes, I agree Flacco is probably more often than not going to be picked as the better QB, especially with a SB on his resume. But lets be real, they had a lot of fortunate things happen for that to be possible (should have never made the SB but blown coverages gave them a late gift) and he's done very little since and his numbers are not that great either. Who do you think causes more problems for DC to game plan for? I promise you its not Flacco whose leads a medicore offense where Tyrod is the most dangerous QB in the NFL while running, is more efficient, and leads a substantially higher scoring offense. And most of what Tyrod has accomplished has been with a substantially worse group of receiving weapons as Sammy has barely been healthy the 2 years Tyrod played, yet he is still more efficient, better rating, way less turnovers, etc. So I don't think the gap between them amongst his peers is as big as you think it is. In fact, I will say it right now...I think Tyrod will have a better year (again) than Flacco this year. He will have more total TD's, less INT's, and lead a higher scoring offense than what Baltimore will do this year. Lets look at them side by side the last 2 years: Total TD's TT: 29 games: 47 TD's (1.62 per game) JF: 26 Games: 39 TD's (1.5 per game) Tyrods Better Total Turnovers TT: 29 games: 19 (0.65 per game) JF: 26 Games 31 (1.19 per game) Tyrods a LOT better Comp % TT: 29 games: 62.6% JF: 26 Games: 64.7% Flacco's Slightly Better Total Yards Per Game TT: 29 games: 248.5 yards JF: 26 Games: 276.5 yards Joe is Better - but looking at the next 2 stats, way less efficient in getting those yards and comes from sheer VOLUME over efficiency. Yards Per Attempt TT: 29 games: 7.42 Yards JF: 26 Games: 6.57 yards Tyrods a Lot Better Average Attempts Per Game TT: 29 games: 28.1 Att/game JF: 26 Games: 41.5 Att/game Flacco throws the ball 13.4 more times per game than TT while TT rushes for 5.6 more times for a net gain of 7.8 MORE combined attempts per game by Flacco and yet only averages 28 more total yards per game on those extra attempts. Average Points Per Game (only games they were the QB in) TT: 29 games: 24.7 per game (15 games in 2016 = 25.9) JF: 26 games: 21.9 per game (16 games in 2016 = 21.4) Tyrods team a LOT better (despite Baltimore having better WR's and a much better defense). Career QB Rating: TT: 92.3 JF: 84.5 Tyrods significantly higher So you guys can sit back here and say whatever you want, but the FACTS remain that Tyrod has been the better QB the last 2 years with WAY worse coaching, and less talent to throw to due to the injuries that plagued our receivers the last 2 years. If Flacco had NOT won the SB, his status would not be nearly as high as it is, his on field production has been middle of the road outside that one improbable run. And I didn't even bother to identify that massive difference running the ball by TT compared to Flacco as its not even worth comparing as TT is a million times more dangerous and productive at that. And the funny thing is this: I am not even making a case for Tyrod over Flacco...I am just identifying that the margin isn't nearly as big as some of you want to make it out to be, and that Tyrod (whether you want to believe it or not) gets more respect from his peers than people here do and hasn't been remotely as bad as the nay sayers paint him to be. Especially when you consider the poor coaching and poor health at the WR position. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseTooth Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I don't think the difference is a wide of margin as you think amongst people inside the NFL. Yes, I agree Flacco is probably more often than not going to be picked as the better QB, especially with a SB on his resume. But lets be real, they had a lot of fortunate things happen for that to be possible (should have never made the SB but blown coverages gave them a late gift) and he's done very little since and his numbers are not that great either. Who do you think causes more problems for DC to game plan for? I promise you its not Flacco whose leads a medicore offense where Tyrod is the most dangerous QB in the NFL while running, is more efficient, and leads a substantially higher scoring offense. And most of what Tyrod has accomplished has been with a substantially worse group of receiving weapons as Sammy has barely been healthy the 2 years Tyrod played, yet he is still more efficient, better rating, way less turnovers, etc. So I don't think the gap between them amongst his peers is as big as you think it is. In fact, I will say it right now...I think Tyrod will have a better year (again) than Flacco this year. He will have more total TD's, less INT's, and lead a higher scoring offense than what Baltimore will do this year. Lets look at them side by side the last 2 years: Total TD's TT: 29 games: 47 TD's (1.62 per game) JF: 26 Games: 39 TD's (1.5 per game) Tyrods Better Total Turnovers TT: 29 games: 19 (0.65 per game) JF: 26 Games 31 (1.19 per game) Tyrods a LOT better Comp % TT: 29 games: 62.6% JF: 26 Games: 64.7% Flacco's Slightly Better Total Yards Per Game TT: 29 games: 248.5 yards JF: 26 Games: 276.5 yards Joe is Better - but looking at the next 2 stats, way less efficient in getting those yards and comes from sheer VOLUME over efficiency. Yards Per Attempt TT: 29 games: 7.42 Yards JF: 26 Games: 6.57 yards Tyrods a Lot Better Average Attempts Per Game TT: 29 games: 28.1 Att/game JF: 26 Games: 41.5 Att/game Flacco throws the ball 13.4 more times per game than TT while TT rushes for 5.6 more times for a net gain of 7.8 MORE combined attempts per game by Flacco and yet only averages 28 more total yards per game on those extra attempts. Average Points Per Game (only games they were the QB in) TT: 29 games: 24.7 per game (15 games in 2016 = 25.9) JF: 26 games: 21.9 per game (16 games in 2016 = 21.4) Tyrods team a LOT better (despite Baltimore having better WR's and a much better defense). Career QB Rating: TT: 92.3 JF: 84.5 Tyrods significantly higher So you guys can sit back here and say whatever you want, but the FACTS remain that Tyrod has been the better QB the last 2 years with WAY worse coaching, and less talent to throw to due to the injuries that plagued our receivers the last 2 years. If Flacco had NOT won the SB, his status would not be nearly as high as it is, his on field production has been middle of the road outside that one improbable run. And I didn't even bother to identify that massive difference running the ball by TT compared to Flacco as its not even worth comparing as TT is a million times more dangerous and productive at that. And the funny thing is this: I am not even making a case for Tyrod over Flacco...I am just identifying that the margin isn't nearly as big as some of you want to make it out to be, and that Tyrod (whether you want to believe it or not) gets more respect from his peers than people here do and hasn't been remotely as bad as the nay sayers paint him to be. Especially when you consider the poor coaching and poor health at the WR position. Great post. Sometimes the TT hate gets a little annoying cause almost no one recognizes this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Jerry ColemanVerified account @sportswcoleman 4h4 hours ago More Joe excited to throw to Maclin. Who will be here tmrw. He said Eric Decker would be welcomed addition #Ravens @1057TheFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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