GunnerBill Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Ever notice how short the tenure is of ex-Bills on the Pats roster? might have been the case in the past.... but that is because in the past we didn't have talent and picking guys up from us was pointless. Donald Jones and Scott Chandler were never going to be long term Pats. What is different now is the Bills have talent.... and the Pats are plucking genuinely good players from us. Hogan and Gillislee are talented role players and Gilmore is a legit #1 corner. All 3 will have reasonably successful Pats careers.... Hogan already has a ring.
destro32 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 BS article - The patriot way is by having Tom Brady and Billy boy - 2 of the best maybe ever - Look at what happened last year when they did not have Tommy boy when the bills played them in Foxboro - The ****ty bills shut them out - I guess all that 'hard work' forgot to show up at home vs a ****ty team. It all comes back to Brady pure and simple no matter how you look at it
billz4life820 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 BS article - The patriot way is by having Tom Brady and Billy boy - 2 of the best maybe ever - Look at what happened last year when they did not have Tommy boy when the bills played them in Foxboro - The ****ty bills shut them out - I guess all that 'hard work' forgot to show up at home vs a ****ty team. It all comes back to Brady pure and simple no matter how you look at it The patriots still went 3-1 without brady.... bills played there 3rd string qb
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 The patriots still went 3-1 without brady.... bills played there 3rd string qb What would the Pats do in the playoffs without Brady? Without question BB is a great coach. He is the reason the Pats can win with Brady sidelined. However, that doesn't make Brady replaceable. Jimmy G beat a bad Cards team, the Fish, and a bad Texans team. I want to see Jimmy G win big games. The Pats would be just another average team without Brady. One that could sneak into the playoffs occasionally.
John from Riverside Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 The patriots still went 3-1 without brady.... bills played there 3rd string qb And? What was the excuse for the other 3 NFL teams?
timekills17 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Well how about Chris Hogan? When he was here he was just all right but in the playoffs with the Pats he came up huge. Especially in their game against the Steelers. How much of that do you attribute to coaching/environment? Chris Hogan stats, per year, for last three seasons not in order. You tell me which one was the huge impactful year with the Patriots: Year X: Receptions 36, Yards 450, TDs 2 Year Y: Receptions 38, Yards 680, TDs 4 Year Z: Receptions 41, Yards 426, TDs 4
Captain Murica Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Chris Hogan stats, per year, for last three seasons not in order. You tell me which one was the huge impactful year with the Patriots: Year X: Receptions 36, Yards 450, TDs 2 Year Y: Receptions 38, Yards 680, TDs 4 Year Z: Receptions 41, Yards 426, TDs 4 Year Y of course Edited June 13, 2017 by Captain Murica
LABILLBACKER Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Wonder if Gilmore will be calling it upbeat after he blows a coverage or doesn't make tackle, I mean, BB would not stand for that. Belichick will get a very quick indoctrination of Gilmore's flaws.
Billsman623 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Who gives two ***** what a backup running back thinks? He should be thankful the Bills gave him his break because before they did he was a scrap heap throw away. !@#$ him and !@#$ the Patriots.
timekills17 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Year Y of course Of course? I suppose the YAC is what made it a huge year. Because it wasn't the total yards or the TDs. Over 1/3 of that total for the year came in ONE GAME. That game was hyped by ESPN (go figure) and suddenly Hogan is a superstar for the Pats, far exceeding his Bills performance. Nope. Typical Bill B. coaching - he'll pick a player that to focus on and exploit for a game, send the rest of the NFL running for an answer to stop that player, and choose someone else the next week.
Gray Beard Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 I don't understand the negativity on here. I think the article supports a belief that many on here have had for a while. Winning begets winning. Winning causes an upbeat attitude. Winning causes buy-in from all the players. Winning creates camaraderie. It seems obvious, but they are valid observations.
Saxum Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Who gives two ***** what a backup running back thinks? He should be thankful the Bills gave him his break because before they did he was a scrap heap throw away. !@#$ him and !@#$ the Patriots. He is not going to be a backup running back; he is going to be a rotation running back, His response to your post if he was on this board: Who gives two pieces of dung what a UDFA just camp fodder thinks?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Who gives two ***** what a backup running back thinks? He should be thankful the Bills gave him his break because before they did he was a scrap heap throw away. !@#$ him and !@#$ the Patriots. ....FOURTEEN AFCE titles and FIVE LOMBARDIS tells me their recipe for success is working.....and put aside the cheatercrap if you want to have an intellectual discussion....and we've been waiting for Brady's demise/decline for how long?......they're good.............
Captain Murica Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Of course? I suppose the YAC is what made it a huge year. Because it wasn't the total yards or the TDs. Over 1/3 of that total for the year came in ONE GAME. That game was hyped by ESPN (go figure) and suddenly Hogan is a superstar for the Pats, far exceeding his Bills performance. Nope. Typical Bill B. coaching - he'll pick a player that to focus on and exploit for a game, send the rest of the NFL running for an answer to stop that player, and choose someone else the next week. I was just picking the year he played with the Pats, I've used these stats in an argument before stating how Hogan wasn't a different player in NE than he was here, which is the 4th option at WR.
firemedic Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 A couple things about that article. That Steelers game in the snow in Buffalo convinced me that we were ready to move on from the Rex regime. I've been watching our Bills a long time, and never was I more let down about the fact that our team got pushed around so badly in that weather. I mean, that's OUR weather. That's our home field advantage. Instead, some of our players (not all) looked like they had never seen the stuff before. So, the things that our former players said about moving indoors when the weather turned lousy certainly showed up to me in that game in particular. Now moving on to today, I'm very optimistic that our new coach is so detail oriented. I'm thinking he won't let the small details that that Boston Globe article talks about go by the wayside for an easier life for himself or the players. At least this is what we've been presented so far. We haven't played a down yet...but I like what I'm seeing so far. I'm liking the discipline and detail. Heck, they even got Dareus out there sweating in OTA. Like I said, lets see how it plays out. But so far, I'm optimistic about the future with McDermott and Beane running things. Lets hope to a long regime where a detail oriented and winning philosophy can become ingrained into the culture and we can go back to owning the division for a while. A couple things about that article. That Steelers game in the snow in Buffalo convinced me that we were ready to move on from the Rex regime. I've been watching our Bills a long time, and never was I more let down about the fact that our team got pushed around so badly in that weather. I mean, that's OUR weather. That's our home field advantage. Instead, some of our players (not all) looked like they had never seen the stuff before. So, the things that our former players said about moving indoors when the weather turned lousy certainly showed up to me in that game in particular. Now moving on to today, I'm very optimistic that our new coach is so detail oriented. I'm thinking he won't let the small details that that Boston Globe article talks about go by the wayside for an easier life for himself or the players. At least this is what we've been presented so far. We haven't played a down yet...but I like what I'm seeing so far. I'm liking the discipline and detail. Heck, they even got Dareus out there sweating in OTA. Like I said, lets see how it plays out. But so far, I'm optimistic about the future with McDermott and Beane running things. Lets hope to a long regime where a detail oriented and winning philosophy can become ingrained into the culture and we can go back to owning the division for a while. The Miami games were identical to that Pitts game, absolutely nauseating.......
Doc Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 let's see how much they love the Patriot's Way when Hogan and Gilislee are cut next offseason then the year after Gilmore is traded off to some other team. They won't be able to trade Gilmore until 2020 at the earliest. And even then, it would still cost them $7.2M against the cap. He better live up to that deal. But given he's missed 11 games over the past 4 years, and this while trying to mostly avoid contact...
Webster Guy Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 The funny thing is the Pats front office is the most disloyal in the history of the NFL. They don't care about Mike or anyone else except Brady, and they've proven it time and time again. A deceitful, smug organization that I would still loathe even if they werent in our division. If they had any integrity they'd have plaques of pete carroll and dopey shanahan on their wall for handing them their past two championships by refusing to simply run the ball and close the deal.
DirtDart Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots/2017/06/with_chris_hogan_mike_gillislee_and_stephon_gilmore_patriots_reaping_benefit rumours of our farm team status are coming true Sweet, maybe they will take Tie Rod next year....Nahhhh, they wouldn't....
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