mileena Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) I'll take it! 15th is not bad! For full article, see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/06/08/power-ranking-the-nfls-backup-qbs-moore-garoppolo-lead-but-kaepernick-could-be-there-too/?utm_term=.32eaf75b5c94 Power ranking the NFL’s backup QBs: Moore, Garoppolo lead, but Kaepernick could be there too Here’s a ranking of the league’s backups from best to worst, based on their chances of producing an above-average level of adjusted net yards per pass in a game if called into service during the 2017 season. Rookies were given an average adjusted net yards per pass figure based on historical averages of first-year NFL passers, modified for expected playing time and opportunity. Solid options 1. Matt Moore, Miami Dolphins, 54 percent chance at being better than an average starter 2. Jimmy Garoppolo, New England Patriots, 51 percent Useful stand-ins 3. Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagles, 46 percent 4. Colt McCoy, Washington Redskins, 44 percent 5. Brandon Weeden, Houston Texans, 43 percent 6. Kellen Clemens, San Diego Chargers, 43 percent 7. Chase Daniel, New Orleans Saints, 43 percent 8. A.J. McCarron, Cincinnati Bengals, 42 percent 9. Chad Henne, Jacksonville Jaguars, 42 percent 10. Kellen Moore, Dallas Cowboys, 42 percent Not-ready-for prime-time players 11. Trevone Boykin, Seattle Seahawks, 42 percent 12. Matt Schaub, Atlanta Falcons, 42 percent 13. Derek Anderson, Carolina Panthers, 42 percent 14. Connor Cook, Oakland Raiders, 41 percent 15. Cardale Jones, Buffalo Bills, 41 percent 16. Geno Smith, New York Giants, 41 percent 17. Landry Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers, 41 percent 18. Mitch Trubisky, Chicago Bears, 41 percent 19. Patrick Mahomes II, Kansas City Chiefs, 39 percent Emergencies only 20. Sean Mannion, Los Angeles Rams, 39 percent 21. Ryan Mallett, Baltimore Ravens, 39 percent 22. Brett Hundley, Green Bay Packers, 38 percent 23. Paxton Lynch, Denver Broncos, 38 percent 24. Scott Tolzien, Indianapolis Colts, 37 percent 25. Kevin Hogan, Cleveland Browns, 36 percent 26. Matt Cassel, Tennessee Titans, 35 percent Clipboard holders 27. Matt Barkley, San Francisco 49ers, 31 percent 28. Drew Stanton, Arizona Cardinals, 30 percent 29. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 30 percent 30. Jake Rudock, Detroit Lions, 29 percent 31. Case Keenum, Minnesota Vikings, 27 percent 32. Bryce Petty, New York Jets, 27 percent Edited June 8, 2017 by mileena
The Wiz Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) I don't trust a list that has geno smith(16) as not ready for prime time and fitz(29th) as clipboard holder. Edited June 8, 2017 by The Wiz
mileena Posted June 8, 2017 Author Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) I don't trust a list that has geno smith(16) as not ready for prime time and fitz(29th) as clipboard holder. True, but this was written by Neil Greenberg of the Washington Post, which has an excellent reputation for thorough analysis. I added a paragraph explaining the analysis to my initial post: "Here’s a ranking of the league’s backups from best to worst, based on their chances of producing an above-average level of adjusted net yards per pass in a game if called into service during the 2017 season. Rookies were given an average adjusted net yards per pass figure based on historical averages of first-year NFL passers, modified for expected playing time and opportunity." Edited June 8, 2017 by mileena
H2o Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Oh sh*t, don't let Jeffismagic see that he is rated higher than Mahomes. His effin head will explode.
fansince88 Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Oh sh*t, don't let Jeffismagic see that he is rated higher than Mahomes. His effin head will explode. Oh please show it to him!!
WhoTom Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 I don't trust a list that has geno smith(16) as not ready for prime time and fitz(29th) as clipboard holder. Agreed. I'd have Fitz in the Useful Stand-in category. Geno goes to the Emergency Only group.
Rocky Landing Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) There are quite a few head scratchers on this list. Describing someone like Matt Schaub as "not ready for prime time," for example. Ryan Fitzpatrick 29th-- 13 spots behind Geno Smith? Was recent history not considered in this list??? Edited June 8, 2017 by Rocky Landing
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Oh sh*t, don't let Jeffismagic see that he is rated higher than Mahomes. His effin head will explode. ....LMAO....knew that was coming............
Big C Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 Agreed. I'd have Fitz in the Useful Stand-in category. Geno goes to the Emergency Only group. Fitz is at the low point of his cycle. After Jameis gets hurt he will come in and lead the team to some clutch wins before ultimately ending the season .500. Can't see how Cardale has that rank but I'd love to be surprised.
prissythecat Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 How come EJ is not on this list? Wasn't he proclaimed as best #2 in NFL last season.
Bangarang Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 How come EJ is not on this list? Wasn't he proclaimed as best #2 in NFL last season. I seem to remember people making that horrible argument. You'd think he'd be easily in the top 5 of this garbage pile of a list.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 I'll take it! 15th is not bad! For full article, see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/06/08/power-ranking-the-nfls-backup-qbs-moore-garoppolo-lead-but-kaepernick-could-be-there-too/?utm_term=.32eaf75b5c94 Power ranking the NFL’s backup QBs: Moore, Garoppolo lead, but Kaepernick could be there too Here’s a ranking of the league’s backups from best to worst, based on their chances of producing an above-average level of adjusted net yards per pass in a game if called into service during the 2017 season. Rookies were given an average adjusted net yards per pass figure based on historical averages of first-year NFL passers, modified for expected playing time and opportunity. Solid options 1. Matt Moore, Miami Dolphins, 54 percent chance at being better than an average starter 2. Jimmy Garoppolo, New England Patriots, 51 percent Useful stand-ins 3. Nick Foles, Philadelphia Eagles, 46 percent 4. Colt McCoy, Washington Redskins, 44 percent 5. Brandon Weeden, Houston Texans, 43 percent 6. Kellen Clemens, San Diego Chargers, 43 percent 7. Chase Daniel, New Orleans Saints, 43 percent 8. A.J. McCarron, Cincinnati Bengals, 42 percent 9. Chad Henne, Jacksonville Jaguars, 42 percent 10. Kellen Moore, Dallas Cowboys, 42 percent Not-ready-for prime-time players 11. Trevone Boykin, Seattle Seahawks, 42 percent 12. Matt Schaub, Atlanta Falcons, 42 percent 13. Derek Anderson, Carolina Panthers, 42 percent 14. Connor Cook, Oakland Raiders, 41 percent 15. Cardale Jones, Buffalo Bills, 41 percent 16. Geno Smith, New York Giants, 41 percent 17. Landry Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers, 41 percent 18. Mitch Trubisky, Chicago Bears, 41 percent 19. Patrick Mahomes II, Kansas City Chiefs, 39 percent Emergencies only 20. Sean Mannion, Los Angeles Rams, 39 percent 21. Ryan Mallett, Baltimore Ravens, 39 percent 22. Brett Hundley, Green Bay Packers, 38 percent 23. Paxton Lynch, Denver Broncos, 38 percent 24. Scott Tolzien, Indianapolis Colts, 37 percent 25. Kevin Hogan, Cleveland Browns, 36 percent 26. Matt Cassel, Tennessee Titans, 35 percent Clipboard holders 27. Matt Barkley, San Francisco 49ers, 31 percent 28. Drew Stanton, Arizona Cardinals, 30 percent 29. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 30 percent 30. Jake Rudock, Detroit Lions, 29 percent 31. Case Keenum, Minnesota Vikings, 27 percent 32. Bryce Petty, New York Jets, 27 percent I'm sorry, this list is a joke.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 How come EJ is not on this list? Wasn't he proclaimed as best #2 in NFL last season. By whom? Whaley as I recall said he was in the "top third" or maybe "top quarter" but that's a long way from #2. Can't recall anyone here doling out more love for EJ as a #2 Do recall one delusional upstart thinking EJ > Taylor but you can't fix cra cra
Kirby Jackson Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 I don't think that the list is horrible but it's pretty subjective. Fitz is WAY too low but in general it's tough to have a real list.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 8, 2017 Posted June 8, 2017 That's pretty hilarious ....he's #15 without playing a down in the NFL and look at the guys below him that have played in NFL games.......makes perfect sense..........
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