3rdand12 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 So sayeth the Skurski, so sayeth the flock. no pressure
CanadianFan Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 really? is this really your approach to find something to be upset about? Hey I'm in favor of getting Maclin. Go look at page 1. But the cap space leaves much to be desired for a team that's NOT contending. One of the main criticism of Whaley era was lack of cap space. Granted, we SPENT expecting playoffs and we didn't get it. So now what's the strategy? still spend like there's no tomorrow? That makes NO SENSE if you're not expecting playoffs to spend all your cap. Take a look at teams with more cap space than us. Packers, Pats, Steelers, Dolphins, Cards. All playoff teams. So what's going to be the spin? This is a mediocre team at close to cap space? Are we a playoff team?
Domdab99 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 I've seen Tom Petty 8 or 9 times over the years. Always a fantastic show. "The Bills now have a full 90-man roster, meaning if they want to sign Maclin they will have to make another roster move." so cut one of the camp fodder bodies. Big deal.
BADOLBILZ Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Yes But I thought we couldn't sign our draft picks if we matched the Mike Gillislee contract and now we have $12M??? I feel shocked. Does it concern anyone else that Maclin rarely creates any separation.........considering that Tyrod is reluctant to throw to covered receivers? I mean, he's decent on contested passes........for his size.......but he reminds me of a smaller, less physical late-career Eric Moulds. Never been a fan of Maclin......Alex Smith probably got the best out of him.
JM2009 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Hey I'm in favor of getting Maclin. Go look at page 1. But the cap space leaves much to be desired for a team that's NOT contending. One of the main criticism of Whaley era was lack of cap space. Granted, we SPENT expecting playoffs and we didn't get it. So now what's the strategy? still spend like there's no tomorrow? That makes NO SENSE if you're not expecting playoffs to spend all your cap. Take a look at teams with more cap space than us. Packers, Pats, Steelers, Dolphins, Cards. All playoff teams. So what's going to be the spin? This is a mediocre team at close to cap space? Are we a playoff team? Cards-we blew them out last season. Miami-if the defense showed up the Bills would have been the WC, not Miami. "Spend like there is no tomorrow"-is this a joke?
K D Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Someone mentioned it earlier, but it gets tiring reading the thread with little to no updates. Where are those insiders?! they are on the inside
Cripple Creek Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 did we sign all our draft picks? Didn't realize beavers hibernated.
Coach Tuesday Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 But I thought we couldn't sign our draft picks if we matched the Mike Gillislee contract and now we have $12M??? I feel shocked. Does it concern anyone else that Maclin rarely creates any separation.........considering that Tyrod is reluctant to throw to covered receivers? I mean, he's decent on contested passes........for his size.......but he reminds me of a smaller, less physical late-career Eric Moulds. Never been a fan of Maclin......Alex Smith probably got the best out of him. Huh, that's not how I view him at all. He didn't get separation last year because (I think) they run a horizontal offense in KC and he had some kind of lower body injury. But IIRC in Philly he used to get separation all of the time, especially on mid-range in-breaking routes.
Captain Murica Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) Hey I'm in favor of getting Maclin. Go look at page 1. But the cap space leaves much to be desired for a team that's NOT contending. One of the main criticism of Whaley era was lack of cap space. Granted, we SPENT expecting playoffs and we didn't get it. So now what's the strategy? still spend like there's no tomorrow? That makes NO SENSE if you're not expecting playoffs to spend all your cap. Take a look at teams with more cap space than us. Packers, Pats, Steelers, Dolphins, Cards. All playoff teams. So what's going to be the spin? This is a mediocre team at close to cap space? Are we a playoff team? Well next year without the addition of Maclin(if he does become a Bill) and his contract, the Bills will have 23.5 million of cap space if everything was to stay where it is at. Which we will also need to take into account if they Bills either, let Sammy walk, tag him, re-sign him, or tag him and restructure. I mean it's not 50-60 million of cap space like the Pats had this past off-season but it isn't terrible. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2018/ Edited June 6, 2017 by Captain Murica
JM2009 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Didn't realize beavers hibernated. He's so concerned with the cap, and yet didn't know all the picks were signed.
Mark Vader Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 we should start a petition. The Anti Maclins do have some valid points. as much a that pains me. This is more a russ brandon vibe. Fans get stoked about a potential signing like this. That is cool really. But I do want to consider the deal that will need to be made to "get " him. In my gut I think this would be fantastic. Logic and reason are trying awful hard to restrain me What does "logic and reason" tell you when you think about our current roster of WR's and just staying put and go into the season with only them, as opposed to having Maclin join them?
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 But I thought we couldn't sign our draft picks if we matched the Mike Gillislee contract and now we have $12M??? I feel shocked. Does it concern anyone else that Maclin rarely creates any separation.........considering that Tyrod is reluctant to throw to covered receivers? I mean, he's decent on contested passes........for his size.......but he reminds me of a smaller, less physical late-career Eric Moulds. Never been a fan of Maclin......Alex Smith probably got the best out of him. hard to evaluate off last year because he was hurt. I think he needs to be looked at overall.....to me he is a "robert wood type" receiver. Which is not a bad thing.
MAJBobby Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Well next year without the addition of Maclin(if he does become a Bill) and his contract, the Bills will have 23.5 million of cap space if everything was to stay where it is at. Which we will also need to take into account if they Bills either, let Sammy walk, tag him, re-sign him, or tag him and restructure. I mean it's not 50-60 million of cap space like the Pats had this past off-season but it isn't terrible. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2018/ When you consider no long term Franchise QB on this roster yeah it really bad.
JM2009 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 hard to evaluate off last year because he was hurt. I think he needs to be looked at overall.....to me he is a "robert wood type" receiver. Which is not a bad thing. Maclin is better than Woods. Maclin is a true number two type.
Coach Tuesday Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 When you consider no long term Franchise QB on this roster yeah it really bad. That does it, you're on ignore. I feel better already.
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 When you consider no long term Franchise QB on this roster yeah it really bad. Yawn
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 To be fair....can we agree that Tyrod Taylor is easily a better overall quarterback then Rob Johnson was in every way to include working to get the respect of his teamates?I wasn't in any way shape or fort saying RJ was good just that he too may have had an arm. We need more than JAG. To date imo TT is JAG. We need short, middle and deep passing to the whole receiver corps and not special considerations for Sammy. 17 seasons going and the excuses remain the same.
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Maclin is better than Woods. Maclin is a true number two type. I actually think Robert could have been also minus the groin injuries that have been plaguing him last couple of years. But its all good....you have a guy that makes you immediately better
Cripple Creek Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 nope but what is going to happen when we're ready to contend? where's the cap space going to be? What in the world would a one or possibly two year contract have to do with the hypothetical time that the Bills are ready to contend?
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