John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Tyson Clabo was one I remember, though that was a good thing. I love Buffalo and the Bills. But it seems hard to believe it would be a veteran "star" type player's 1st option especially without an elite type qb. Yawn
NewEra Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 lol Immediate number two on this roster with a QB whose best pass is the deep ball which is perfect for a speedster like Maclin. Had to get a shot in again with your crazy agenda. Kinda like you with whaley, no? Why is his "agenda" not acceptable while yours was? Kind of ironic.
nucci Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 started RJ and ruined the Bills forever You know that wasn't Wade's call, right?
Kirby Jackson Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Tyson Clabo was one I remember, though that was a good thing. I love Buffalo and the Bills. But it seems hard to believe it would be a veteran "star" type player's 1st option especially without an elite type qb. Clabo definitely did, but that's one guy a decade ago. Every team has that. A lot of that perception comes from the Buffalo inferiority complex IMO. We push guys away so they don't hurt us. We feel like someone is out to get us. In reality the Bills have landed a very high percentage of their targets. Sometimes they overpay maybe but it isn't often that they get screwed over.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Dude just had Alex smith, not exactly elite, we have one of his good friends, and a coach he has known most of his career. If the money is right I think we have a good shot You would think he wants a shot a SB. Smith, for as flawed as he is, almost went to a SB in SF. But I'm hope I'm wrong.
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 You would think he wants a shot a SB. Smith, for as flawed as he is, almost went to a SB in SF. But I'm hope I'm wrong. Not getting that with the Ravens. They have a worse record over last 3 years than the Bills.
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Clabo definitely did, but that's one guy a decade ago. Every team has that. A lot of that perception comes from the Buffalo inferiority complex IMO. We push guys away so they don't hurt us. We feel like someone is out to get us. In reality the Bills have landed a very high percentage of their targets. Sometimes they overpay maybe but it isn't often that they get screwed over. I just think it is interesting how we over the course of a offseason lament the positions that are weak on the team Then an opportunity presents itself to strengthen it and fans look for ways (not all fans) to talk themselves out of it - Why get a quality vet WR? The QB wont use him...(what?) - Better off saving our cap room for that fictional player that will be available to us next year I still think there is a group of posters who do NOT want the bills bettering their lot because they want to to fail bad this next year improving the 1st round pick.
Bray Wyatt Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Not getting that with the Ravens. They have a worse record over last 3 years than the Bills. Beat me to it, his choices are us or the Ravens so far not exactly SB material
ddaryl Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 started RJ and ruined the Bills forever Best move ever Flutie fans are just delusional enough to believe that it was relevant to the future
BringBackFergy Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 See when I read this thread I thought it was yet another place to rag on Sammy for a bunch of irrational made up crap. I figured RJ/TT made just as much sense. I don't mind people comparing Maclin (stats) to Sammy (stats) in this thread...in fact, it helps us understand just what we might be getting in terms of production if he signs vs. what we hope will be a productive year for SW#14 ("Buy my tshirts on Facebook). But starting to argue TT vs. Rob Johnson in a WR thread is a bit off course. I'm no moderator so I'll shut up now. Just my two cents
John from Riverside Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Not getting that with the Ravens. They have a worse record over last 3 years than the Bills. Frankly I dont see where there is ANY incentive of going to the ravens - They are in worse cap shape then us - They dont have the team we have frankly....at least their record does not show it - All of Maclin's friends and former coaches are here
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Clabo definitely did, but that's one guy a decade ago. Every team has that. A lot of that perception comes from the Buffalo inferiority complex IMO. We push guys away so they don't hurt us. We feel like someone is out to get us. In reality the Bills have landed a very high percentage of their targets. Sometimes they overpay maybe but it isn't often that they get screwed over. Good post and I generally agree. It's not so much of an inferior complex as being realistic. Unless the Bills are throwing good money at him, why would his agent have Buffalo as his only visit? You would think after being cut, he should shop around. Again, I hope you're right!
dpberr Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 My guess is if there is a contract between the Bills and Maclin, it will be a 1 year "prove it" kind of deal similar to what Jeffrey did with the Eagles and bet on himself for 2018 free agency.
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Frankly I dont see where there is ANY incentive of going to the ravens - They are in worse cap shape then us - They dont have the team we have frankly....at least their record does not show it - All of Maclin's friends and former coaches are here unless he loves morninweh - but with Ravens OC track record he probably won't last the season. Greg roman next in line and... oh
4merper4mer Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Sammy is better as I clearly stated. Maclin can push him because he can take away targets from him if he's more available to TT both in practice and games. They want competition at every position. Sammy has never had anyone close to being able to challenge him. I think it's a little like burying your head in the sand if you don't think the new regime is trying to light a fire under this highly talented player to decide if he's going to deliver on a mega contract. So if we had the football version of Michael Jordan we should cut him because nobody could push him? It makes no sense. I'm not calling Sammy Michael Jordan but nobody in the WR corps, Maclin or no Maclin is "pushing him".
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 I just think it is interesting how we over the course of a offseason lament the positions that are weak on the team Then an opportunity presents itself to strengthen it and fans look for ways (not all fans) to talk themselves out of it - Why get a quality vet WR? The QB wont use him...(what?) - Better off saving our cap room for that fictional player that will be available to us next year I still think there is a group of posters who do NOT want the bills bettering their lot because they want to to fail bad this next year improving the 1st round pick. There's certainly a group of tank proponents on TSW that want to be all in on the 2018 QB class. It certainly seems as if OBD is not at all of that mindset.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Not getting that with the Ravens. They have a worse record over last 3 years than the Bills. Still, the Ravens have a much better league wide reputation.
PaattMaann Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 You know that wasn't Wade's call, right? I am very aware, I was only answering for another poster who said "wades worst move ever" or something like that
YoloinOhio Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) So if we had the football version of Michael Jordan we should cut him because nobody could push him? It makes no sense. I'm not calling Sammy Michael Jordan but nobody in the WR corps, Maclin or no Maclin is "pushing him". cut him? Cut who? Edited June 6, 2017 by YoloinOhio
GG Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 if he signs, I think what could happen is it would push Sammy. Watkins has never had any competition for the #1wr spot. He stepped on the field as a rookie as clearly the best WR on the team. Stevie was traded the day after he was drafted. His role has never been questioned since the day he joined the team. Now, I still believe that if Maclin is added that Sammy is still the best WR on the team and would still be considered the #1. But it would be the 1st time since he's been here that there was anyone who had the ability or experience as a #1 to push him (better make sure he's out there or Maclin will get the targets, not him), and to mentor him. Actually he did have competition for #1. When healthy, Percy was clearly TT's #1 choice
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