Gugny Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Opening day last year was: Watkins Woods Salas Goodwin This year is looking like: Watkins Jones Holmes Tate So yeah, on paper (key term) there's concern. BUT, in reality, last year that starting four was hit with serious injuries, and realistically this year shouldn't be like that. If we get Maclin... on paper we improve, and likely in reality we improve greatly. Just depends on if we get hit with the same WR injury bug or not. We didn't even get Tate for anything more that returns and WR depth. Now he's one of the 4 best WRs on the team. Maclin would DEFINITELY improve our situation. I don't think anyone can, or is, arguing that. The question is "why?" Why spend all that money when this team is hurting at so many positions?
JM2009 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Yep never on the QB His 68% 111 yards and 5.0 YPA lite it up He didn't play well that game. He played very well in Seattle and the second Miami game, but don't blame the defense/St for anything.
Dorkington Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Opening day last year was: Watkins Woods Salas Goodwin This year is looking like: Watkins Jones Holmes Tate So yeah, on paper (key term) there's concern. BUT, in reality, last year that starting four was hit with serious injuries, and realistically this year shouldn't be like that. If we get Maclin... on paper we improve, and likely in reality we improve greatly. Just depends on if we get hit with the same WR injury bug or not. For clarity, last year's 'top four' played 38 out of 64 games between the four of them. So if we actually have a season this year where our top four WRs play lets say 56 out of 64 games, that'll be a major improvement right there. Add in Sammy being healthy for the games he does play, AND Maclin, and things are looking real good. BUT the above *on paper* comparison ignoring the injuries, does leave concern. It's all about context, which some arguments here have been lacking.
JM2009 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Oh its the QB, but we are stuck this year. Our FO is currently scouting our next QB if Peterman isn't it The defense was stellar last season.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Is any loss on other factors or is it all on TT every loss? I'm pretty much consistent on Tyrod haven't little impact on both wins and losses. He won't loss you a game but he rarely is the reason why you woN. But if they somehow bring in Maclin, hopefully all the blaming of everyone but the qb will stop. Our offense would be loaded with playmakers.
fansince88 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Take JMac if price is right. If not walk away. Peterman is the future and we will go 19/0. Take it to the bank. BAM!
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Is any loss On Tyrod or is it just everyone else's fault? sure - fine blame him. He isn't devoid of blame.
JM2009 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 We didn't even get Tate for anything more that returns and WR depth. Now he's one of the 4 best WRs on the team. Maclin would DEFINITELY improve our situation. I don't think anyone can, or is, arguing that. The question is "why?" Why spend all that money when this team is hurting at so many positions? So you don't get a very good player to help one of those weaker positions?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I put alot of that on Roman, that guy stank up the joint and we were so much better once he hit the road. The team practiced 80 different offensive plays leading up to the game. They ran ~50 in the game. One of many factors that lost us that game.
Doc Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 On defense, forget looking at the units and comparing them to last year. The switch back to the 4-3 will lead to the biggest improvement. It will help the DL, which will in turn help the LB's and secondary. The biggest loss is obviously Gilmore, but they drafted White and added Hyde. On offense, I'll say it: Holmes is as good as Woods. And Brown is as good as Goodwin. Add-in Zay Jones and they're improved. Add-in Maclin...
JM2009 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 I'm pretty much consistent on Tyrod haven't little impact on both wins and losses. He won't loss you a game but he rarely is the reason why you woN. But if they somehow bring in Maclin, hopefully all the blaming of everyone but the qb will stop. Our offense would be loaded with playmakers. They finished top ten in scoring in 2016 with the offense they had. If Maclin is here and players stay healthy, I would expect the same or better.
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 sure - fine blame him. He isn't devoid of blame. Fair. He was high school level bad that game. Ruined my birthday.
Passepartout Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 A lot of the players want him on the Bills from Tyrod to LeSean.
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 We didn't even get Tate for anything more that returns and WR depth. Now he's one of the 4 best WRs on the team. Maclin would DEFINITELY improve our situation. I don't think anyone can, or is, arguing that. The question is "why?" Why spend all that money when this team is hurting at so many positions? You get talent when it is available to get?
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Yep never on the QB His 68% 111 yards and 5.0 YPA lite it up McCoys 16 for 58... and 6 QB hits in 22 snaps. I don't feel like counting - but probably numerous negative plays. 8 accepted penalties. Can you at least acknowledge that the entire team... didn't come to play?
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Yep never on the QB His 68% 111 yards and 5.0 YPA lite it up Tyrod definately deserves his share in that game. But it wasnt just him?
JM2009 Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 You get talent when it is available to get? Yeah, I don't get this poster. "We have a few areas that need improvement, but we can only really improve one, so we won't do it". makes no sense.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 4 wins Bobby. I'll take the over! Fair. He was high school level bad that game. Ruined my birthday. Happy 25th Biscuit!
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 Yeah, I don't get this poster. "We have a few areas that need improvement, but we can only really improve one, so we won't do it". makes no sense. I really feel (and maybe I am wrong and if so i do apologize) it is not about improving the WR core....it is if you improve the wr core you hurt the chance of a tank (or just being flat out bad) when next year's draft has 2 1st round picks. Its too late for all that....the bills have too much talent on the team to tank. They might as well try to win.
MAJBobby Posted June 5, 2017 Posted June 5, 2017 He didn't play well that game. He played very well in Seattle and the second Miami game, but don't blame the defense/St for anything. 2 games dont make a career. And yes i do blame the defense too
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