3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 My pitchfork is ALWAYS lit! As my torch is as sharp as ever. it nearly gleems in the rusky dusky neon dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Sal MaioranaVerified account @salmaiorana 3h3 hours ago More Didn’t I say this already? Maclin leaves town without a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Maclin visiting Baltimore has me less worried about him signing there and more worried about it giving other teams time to blow him away with offers. its a fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Wouldn't that mean Whaley has a lot to learn? Over-paying creates problems down the road. Stick to your plan and don't panic, pay what you think he's worth, let someone else over pay. Tough crowd I was joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 So IF the reports of him wanting $7M a year are true why wouldn't the Bills just do a 2 year $14M deal with $3M base year one and a $4M signing bonus? He'd be guaranteed the $7M and they wouldn't take a huge hit in year 2 if they cut him. You can tweak the numbers some if need be but that doesn't feel unreasonable. This makes a ton of sense. It also makes a ton of sense that he shops around too. Football is an awful business so you should find the best balance of money and winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I would overpay to get this done careful now White. that is how we get into the soft side of the yard. the leech fields perhaps even. Stay steady here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Sal MaioranaVerified account @salmaiorana 3h3 hours ago More Didnt I say this already? Maclin leaves town without a deal. Buffalo/ Rochester media is the worst, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Tough crowd I was joking Dude. I saw that and called that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) So IF the reports of him wanting $7M a year are true why wouldn't the Bills just do a 2 year $14M deal with $3M base year one and a $4M signing bonus? He'd be guaranteed the $7M and they wouldn't take a huge hit in year 2 if they cut him. You can tweak the numbers some if need be but that doesn't feel unreasonable. That was a Whaley trick, that looks good short term and burns you long term. That's what they did with Percy Harvin. Smart cap teams try and avoid the prorated dead money signing bonus hits when the player is no longer on the team. Occasionally, you use it....if it allows you to add a piece or 2 to make a run at a championship, but most the time it's not a smart play. I like they stuck to their guns here, if that's what transpired. At this point there aren't many, if any teams that are ponying up $7M in cash for a #2 WR. Remember this is long after FA and the draft, most teams are pretty much set and their money is spent. I think $4M, or a chance to get to $5M w/ some incentives hit is about the best Maclin can do at this stage of the game, and I bet the Bills offer is pretty damn close to that amount. Now, I wonder if the Bills are going to let him shop that # to other teams. I know Bill B. is infamous for not letting the offer stand if the player goes to shop the # to other teams. It's probably the wise choice. Lastly, why do any players allow their agents to negotiate contracts that don't include roster bonuses due a few days before the start of FA. If you're Maclin you'd be much better off being cut just before FA starts when all teams are flush with cash and looking to spend. Now in the beginning of June the money is dried up. A roster bonus due in March would at least force teams, in this case the Chiefs, to cut the player early, or guarantee the player another chunk of change that would otherwise not be earned if the team does cut him later in the offseason. Edited June 7, 2017 by Estro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Nice job Shady. Another disappointment from this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 So IF the reports of him wanting $7M a year are true why wouldn't the Bills just do a 2 year $14M deal with $3M base year one and a $4M signing bonus? He'd be guaranteed the $7M and they wouldn't take a huge hit in year 2 if they cut him. You can tweak the numbers some if need be but that doesn't feel unreasonable.I'm guessing the bills are writing in a lot of performance based incentives instead of a flat out signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Nice job Shady. Another disappointment from this organization. Is "signing players daily" the new "on like a mofo?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) ....they have 11 WR's in camp and 7 TE's ( a rookie and four guys with 3 years or less experience), one of which is Watson coming off an ACL....with Pitta gone, vet like Barnidge may be their bigger need..... Ravens also have maclin in the building They could soon be signing players daily Edited June 7, 2017 by FluffHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 That was a Whaley trick, that looks good short term and burns you long term. That's what they did with Percy Harvin. Smart cap teams try and avoid the prorated dead money signing bonus hits when the player is no longer on the team. Occasionally, you use it....if it allows you to add a piece or 2 to make a run at a championship, but most the time it's not a smart play. I like they stuck to their guns here, if that's what transpired. At this point there aren't many, if any teams that are ponying up $7M in cash for a #2 WR. Remember this is long after FA and the draft, most teams are pretty much set and their money is spent. I think $4M, or a chance to get to $5M w/ some incentives hit is about the best Maclin can do at this stage of the game, and I bet the Bills offer is pretty damn close to that amount. Now, I wonder if the Bills are going to let him shop that # to other teams. I know Bill B. is infamous for not letting the offer stand if the player goes to shop the # to other teams. It's probably the wise choice. Lastly, why do any players allow their agents to negotiate contracts that don't include roster bonuses due a few days before the start of FA. If you're Maclin you'd be much better off being cut just before FA starts when all teams are flush with cash and looking to spend. Now in the beginning of June the money is dried up. A roster bonus due in March would at least force teams, in this case the Chiefs, to cut the player early, or guarantee the player another chunk of change that would otherwise not be earned if the team does cut him later in the offseason. A fine contrast Estro. Good stuff to chew upon. Not sure if the BB method is the best but it has it reasonings Nice job Shady. Another disappointment from this organization. Never liked him and he is surely going to drop off the 30 year old any minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 165 followers but fwiw @bud_rocks Maclin contract fell apart on guaranteed $ the #Bills were firm on a partial deal with incentives of games played & performance bonuses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 165 followers but fwiw @bud_rocks Maclin contract fell apart on guaranteed $ the #Bills were firm on a partial deal with incentives of games played & performance bonuses! i can deal with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 They also have maclin in the building They could soon be signing players daily You know something. We heard he`s gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Chris brown calls mike garafolo's report of bills and maclin being hung up on salary "speculation" and says take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Nice job Shady. Another disappointment from this organization. So use to it that its not even a big deal.. The weather is gorgeous here and work is done for the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 But hope a no get does not deflate the locker room bubbles You know something. We heard he`s gone. But not forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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