H2o Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 You think Tyrod will outduel Derek Carr and Jameis Winston? I miss the days when I could Billieve. You still can. The Chiefs board is waiting
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Should not better coaching and the addition of top players drafted for Sean's system be better than Rex in wins and losses? You think Tyrod will outduel Derek Carr and Jameis Winston? I miss the days when I could Billieve. The Bills will be favorites at home vs. Tampa (maybe like 2 points). Oakland is going to lose about 5 games. At the Bills is probably pretty high on the list of "may lose" games. I'm not banking on either as wins but certainly am not calling them losses either. 4-4 to 5-3 That's a push and if they can go 1-5 as an underdog against anyone else you win. That would be a terrible bet. They will beat the jets twice and probably win 3 games out of the first 8. O/u 4 through the first 8 even bet I'm in. Make that O/U 3.5 and you get two free wins against the Jets. You just predicted 2-6 and when I asked you to put the money up you want the line at 3.5?!? So you really don't think that they will be 2-6 you just made that up to "strengthen" your argument? I'll take 3.5 but you don't get 2-1 anymore.
jeffismagic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 You still can. The Chiefs board is waiting I have added the Chiefs as my second team. I never understood the point in adding teams until this year.
CommonCents Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 The Bills will be favorites at home vs. Tampa (maybe like 2 points). Oakland is going to lose about 5 games. At the Bills is probably pretty high on the list of "may lose" games. I'm not banking on either as wins but certainly am not calling them losses either. 4-4 to 5-3 You just predicted 2-6 and when I asked you to put the money up you want the line at 3.5?!? So you really don't think that they will be 2-6 you just made that up to "strengthen" your argument? I'll take 3.5 but you don't get 2-1 anymore. I didn't offer a board wide bet I was twisting Jeff. I wouldn't want 2-1 on that.
jeffismagic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 The Bills will be favorites at home vs. Tampa (maybe like 2 points). Oakland is going to lose about 5 games. At the Bills is probably pretty high on the list of "may lose" games. I'm not banking on either as wins but certainly am not calling them losses either. 4-4 to 5-3 You just predicted 2-6 and when I asked you to put the money up you want the line at 3.5?!? So you really don't think that they will be 2-6 you just made that up to "strengthen" your argument? I'll take 3.5 but you don't get 2-1 anymore. If you want to bet the Bills win 5 I'll take the under over the first 8.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) I didn't offer a board wide bet I was twisting Jeff. I wouldn't want 2-1 on that.Are we good then on o/u 3.5 through the 1st 8 games played? Edited June 10, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
H2o Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I have added the Chiefs as my second team. I never understood the point in adding teams until this year. It was inevitable being the Mahomes zealot you are. It won't be long before you're the Chiefs version of Jimmy Spags, only showing up on the board to talk sh*t.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) If you want to bet the Bills win 5 I'll take the under over the first 8.I'm good, that's on the high end of where I think that they'll be. I see 4 or 5 wins in that 1st 8. If you want in at 3.5 too I'll be happy to oblige. Edited June 10, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
jeffismagic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 It was inevitable being the Mahomes zealot you are. It won't be long before you're the Chiefs version of Jimmy Spags, only showing up on the board to talk sh*t. I might have to take that week off. Good point.
CommonCents Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Are we good then on o/u 3.5 through the 1st 8? i think it's a fair bet, but I bet on everything and making that bet would have me going against the Bills and that's a wasted season. I'm not sure I'm willing to do that for 1k. You get the Jets twice then have to go 2-4 against "established" programs. I think Carolina is a win. So I'd be betting that the Bills don't upset one of 5 other teams and again I'd be forced to cheer against the Bills. You have me in a corner Kirby, I will say no.
Captain Murica Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I member when this was a food/maclin thread.
YoloinOhio Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) I member when this was a food/maclin thread.how was dinner? I had baby back ribs outta the smoker (all day )... plus grilled ASPARAGUS. And grey goose. Wonder how maclin's rehearsal dinner went. F5. Edited June 10, 2017 by YoloinOhio
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 i think it's a fair bet, but I bet on everything and making that bet would have me going against the Bills and that's a wasted season. I'm not sure I'm willing to do that for 1k. You get the Jets twice then have to go 2-4 against "established" programs. I think Carolina is a win. So I'd be betting that the Bills don't upset one of 5 other teams and again I'd be forced to cheer against the Bills. You have me in a corner Kirby, I will say no. Fair enough, I'm not mad. Don't be surprised though if I call you out when I see you saying 2-6 through the first 8 though. Fwiw, I think that they probably need to be at least 5-3 to have a path to the playoffs. The 2nd half of the schedule will have to look something like this: win vs. Saints, 2 division wins, Colts at home and 1 of Chargers or Chiefs. That is the path to 10-6 at this point (IMO). Obviously a lot can change. Some teams will emerge and others will fall back. Injuries will be key as well.
jeffismagic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Fair enough, I'm not mad. Don't be surprised though if I call you out when I see you saying 2-6 through the first 8 though. Fwiw, I think that they probably need to be at least 5-3 to have a path to the playoffs. The 2nd half of the schedule will have to look something like this: win vs. Saints, 2 division wins, Colts at home and 1 of Chargers or Chiefs. That is the path to 10-6 at this point (IMO). Obviously a lot can change. Some teams will emerge and others will fall back. Injuries will be key as well. In true Bills fashion, I expect just enough wins to miss out on one of the top QB's. See 2004, 2011 as prime examples.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 how was dinner? I had baby back ribs outta the smoker (all day )... plus grilled ASPARAGUS. And grey goose. Wonder how maclin's rehearsal dinner went. F5. Tomorrow is looking like braised short rib in the dutch oven. It's a lot of work but delicious.
CommonCents Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Fair enough, I'm not mad. Don't be surprised though if I call you out when I see you saying 2-6 through the first 8 though. Fwiw, I think that they probably need to be at least 5-3 to have a path to the playoffs. The 2nd half of the schedule will have to look something like this: win vs. Saints, 2 division wins, Colts at home and 1 of Chargers or Chiefs. That is the path to 10-6 at this point (IMO). Obviously a lot can change. Some teams will emerge and others will fall back. Injuries will be key as well. I was breaking Jeff's balls and looking at it and trying to take my fandom out of it I see 4-4. Jets, Jets, Panthers, then it's safe to think they steal one somewhere in the next 5 weeks. We shall see. I'm not sure what amount of money it would take to kiss the season goodbye but I don't want to know! I'm hoping the Bills start well because it's almost time to fork over Sunday ticket money.
jeffismagic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I was breaking Jeff's balls and looking at it and trying to take my fandom out of it I see 4-4. Jets, Jets, Panthers, then it's safe to think they steal one somewhere in the next 5 weeks. We shall see. I'm not sure what amount of money it would take to kiss the season goodbye but I don't want to know! I'm hoping the Bills start well because it's almost time to fork over Sunday ticket money. I took a few years off from fantasy football but now that DFS is back in New York I'm going to enjoy my Sundays, regardless of what the Bills do.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 In true Bills fashion, I expect just enough wins to miss out on one of the top QB's. See 2004, 2011 as prime examples. That's the likely scenario to me at this point (as I think Maclin is coming). The second 1st though will allow them to get one of them. I don't think that they will be able to get in the top 3 where I think 2 QBs will go. If I had to guess the Bills will be .500ish and the Chiefs a game or so better. I'd say the picks will be like 12 and 18. A ton can change though between now and then.
jeffismagic Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 That's the likely scenario to me at this point (as I think Maclin is coming). The second 1st though will allow them to get one of them. I don't think that they will be able to get in the top 3 where I think 2 QBs will go. If I had to guess the Bills will be .500ish and the Chiefs a game or so better. I'd say the picks will be like 12 and 18. A ton can change though between now and then. I think Bills could trade up for a Carson Wentz level prospect. But will Sean trade 2 1sts and 2 2nds for that?I really doubt it. I think they will try to middle it and get a late 1st or 2nd round prospect on QB while drafting for needs.
Kirby Jackson Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 I think Bills could trade up for a Carson Wentz level prospect. But will Sean trade 2 1sts and 2 2nds for that?I really doubt it. I think they will try to middle it and get a late 1st or 2nd round prospect on QB while drafting for needs. I am thinking that they can get to 5-7 using the two picks. You may not be able to get Allen or Darnold (or whoever is the flavor of the month in April) but Rosen is probably realistic. Even if he has a great year teams will worry about the character.
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