Agent 91 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Just to be devil's advocate - what if his agent said we'll go into free agency if you need that language in the contract. Would you have let him walk? personally, yes i would have
njbuff Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The Bills had no chance last year because Ryan was an AWFUL coach and their best offensive player (Watkins) and their best defensive (Dareus) were UNRELIABLE for different reasons. McDermott is trying to cover for this happening again in 2017, so we will see how it goes. The Bills CANNOT be anything if Watkins and Dareus prove to be unreliable again. I guess this is why they wanted an extra first for next year, just in case this scenario plays out again. No team can function if you have a bad coaching staff and your very best players on both sides of the ball are unreliable.
KD in CA Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The Bills CANNOT be anything if Watkins and Dareus prove to be unreliable again. I guess this is why they wanted an extra first for next year, just in case this scenario plays out again. What they can be is a team not held hostage by overpaid, under-performing 'stars'. Shape up or ship out is how winning teams do it.
YoloinOhio Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Most of that dead money is dead because it's guaranteed, not because it's the unamortized remains of his signing bonus. If they traded him or waived him and someone picked up the contract, it wouldn't cost us nearly that much in dead money. But whether we would be able to do that is questionable. Maybe, maybe not. And yeah, he has established a pattern and patterns are hard to break. Hope he manages it. Yup. Let me close my eyes and imagine it. Unh hunh. Unfortunately, what's coming up is multiple Pro Bowls and a Hall of Fame career. Beckham's a jackass, but a good teammate. all about the team! http://nyp.st/2qXZB48
papazoid Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 @ChrisBrownBills McDermott on Marcell: the time he's put in I couldn't be happier at this pt. When you're a pro consistency the key. #Bills all lip service.....means absolutely nothing. a reminder of what McD said about Kouandjio a week before cutting him. On May 15, new Buffalo coach Sean McDermott fielded a question about Kouandjio during a press conference and commented on the tackle's injury while bypassing the April (wandering in a farm field in his underwear and taken to the hospital)incident. "He's on track," McDermott said. "He's doing a nice job, and I like the look in his eye. And again a credit to Cyrus and our medical team. He's rehabbing similar to (wide receiver) Kolby (Listenbee) and doing a nice job with it." http://www.al.com/sp..._offseason.html
26CornerBlitz Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 all lip service.....means absolutely nothing. a reminder of what McD said about Kouandjio a week before cutting him. On May 15, new Buffalo coach Sean McDermott fielded a question about Kouandjio during a press conference and commented on the tackle's injury while bypassing the April (wandering in a farm field in his underwear and taken to the hospital)incident. "He's on track," McDermott said. "He's doing a nice job, and I like the look in his eye. And again a credit to Cyrus and our medical team. He's rehabbing similar to (wide receiver) Kolby (Listenbee) and doing a nice job with it." http://www.al.com/sp..._offseason.html If it doesn't confirm your bias of a 75% chance that he'll be suspended again or a 10% chance that he'll play at a Pro Bowl level, then of course it means nothing. Your mind is made up with your scientific percentages and any information that runs counter to that is BS. Comparing comments about Kouandjio or Listenbee are ridiculous when it's obvious that Dareus is one of the most important players on the Bills' roster. You can like that or not, but it is what it is.
Niagara Bill Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The Bills had no chance last year because Ryan was an AWFUL coach and their best offensive player (Watkins) and their best defensive (Dareus) were UNRELIABLE for different reasons. McDermott is trying to cover for this happening again in 2017, so we will see how it goes. The Bills CANNOT be anything if Watkins and Dareus prove to be unreliable again. I guess this is why they wanted an extra first for next year, just in case this scenario plays out again. No team can function if you have a bad coaching staff and your very best players on both sides of the ball are unreliable. Dareus is not their best defensive player. He missed more than 1/2 his possible snaps and played terrible on 1/2 of those he played. The problem is people think Dareus is good....no he is not...he potentially could be good.... potentially Percey Harvin can be good...he is not. judgement of players must be on actual performance not dreams.
oldmanfan Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Dareus is not their best defensive player. He missed more than 1/2 his possible snaps and played terrible on 1/2 of those he played. The problem is people think Dareus is good....no he is not...he potentially could be good.... potentially Percey Harvin can be good...he is not. judgement of players must be on actual performance not dreams. He's better in a 4-3 vs. the 3-4.
LABILLBACKER Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Dareus is not their best defensive player. He missed more than 1/2 his possible snaps and played terrible on 1/2 of those he played. The problem is people think Dareus is good....no he is not...he potentially could be good.... potentially Percey Harvin can be good...he is not. judgement of players must be on actual performance not dreams. Problem with Dareus is he's only good when he wants to be. He's got all the talent in the world as we've seen in selective games. But he just reminds me too much of Haynesworth.
Dr Doom Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The only time that Dareus will rush the line is at the Buffet. That guy sucks!
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The only time that Dareus will rush the line is at the Buffet. That guy sucks! Pffffttt.. cmon dude. WHEN Dareus is giving 110% he is an absolute beast and potentially in the top 3 of his position. Buffet jokes? Oh I get It, he's big. That's right?! Funny....
thebandit27 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The only time that Dareus will rush the line is at the Buffet. That guy sucks! Sucks? Dude, since 2011 (the year he entered the league), he ranks 6th in sacks by a DT. And that's with having missed half a season last year.
Royale with Cheese Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Problem with Dareus is he's only good when he wants to be. He's got all the talent in the world as we've seen in selective games. But he just reminds me too much of Haynesworth. I think Dareus is a guy that easily checks out when he's not happy...like the last 2 years. He dominated under Pettine and Schwartz because he was happy and wanted to play hard. You get some guys that are motivated no matter what, you have some that have to be happy. Dareus is the latter.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 His contract is another reason Whaley and crew got fired Not just Dareus contract, but the Bills contract situation as a whole. As I understand it, the structure of contract responsibility with the Bills went something like this: 1) coaching staff and GM both assign importance to player (comparable players on other teams, how critical he is to our team). 2) Monos (for low money guys) or Overdorf (for big money guys) drafted contract offer and negotiates with agent. Keep in mind Overdorf reported thru Lamattina to Brandon 3) GM reviews final contract and presents to player Whaley (in his notorious presser) claimed final responsibility for presenting the contracts, but his background was not in finance or contracts and he openly acknowledged the help he was getting from Overdorf and Monos with the cap. Obviously the above is a set-up for diluted accountability. The result has been some pretty awful contracts - leaving out needed protections for the club and sometimes being overly lavish with the guaranteed money. (Someone here, not remembering who, had a buddy in the business in Seattle whose evaluation of the Bills FO was that their talent evaluation was pretty good but they struggled in valuing talent appropriately, which aligns with this) I think that is what McDermott saw when he got on board and went through the organization, and the major goal in firing Whaley and crew/bringing in Beane was to literally and figuratively have more of a "bean counter" GM with better cap management skills. If they keep Overdorf in the present structure I'm skeptical, if Overdorf either goes, or takes a reorganized position reporting to the GM there is hope for improvement here.
thebandit27 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 I think Dareus is a guy that easily checks out when he's not happy...like the last 2 years. He dominated under Pettine and Schwartz because he was happy and wanted to play hard. You get some guys that are motivated no matter what, you have some that have to be happy. Dareus is the latter. Hardly... http://buildingtheherd.com/film-room/marcell-dareus-buffalo-bills-secret-superstar-on-2015-defense-an-all-22-breakdown/
yungmack Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 With our ex-Marine D line coach I figure Dareus either becomes a monster or a quivering mass of goo. Small but crucial point, oldmanfan: there are no ex-Marines. Proper term: Former Marine. Most of that dead money is dead because it's guaranteed, not because it's the unamortized remains of his signing bonus. If they traded him or waived him and someone picked up the contract, it wouldn't cost us nearly that much in dead money. But whether we would be able to do that is questionable. Maybe, maybe not. And yeah, he has established a pattern and patterns are hard to break. Hope he manages it. Yup. Let me close my eyes and imagine it. Unh hunh. Unfortunately, what's coming up is multiple Pro Bowls and a Hall of Fame career. Beckham's a jackass, but a good teammate. Multiple Pro Bowls and a Hall of Fame career....in Buffalo? With Young Nathaniel as O-coordinator followed by the Wrecks mess and the Bills QBs? It's called a pipe dream because it is only found in the opium pipe.
Royale with Cheese Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Hardly... http://buildingtheherd.com/film-room/marcell-dareus-buffalo-bills-secret-superstar-on-2015-defense-an-all-22-breakdown/ I'll take their word for it. The GIF's they showed looked good. Not sure what he looked like in other games. I just didn't see him as dominate as he used to be but I could be misinformed about that.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 The only time that Dareus will rush the line is at the Buffet. That guy sucks! troll much. total idiocy of a post.
eball Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Serious question: is there any evidence of Dareus not giving full effort when he's not injured or suspended? Seems to me he goes all out when he's in there; the key isn't his attitude it's staying healthy and out of trouble.
thebandit27 Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 I'll take their word for it. The GIF's they showed looked good. Not sure what he looked like in other games. I just didn't see him as dominate as he used to be but I could be misinformed about that. He definitely wasn't, but it had as much to do with him playing to his responsibility as anything else.
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