Deranged Rhino Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I don't see anything wrong with this tactic. Good for them. Find them and catch them any way you can. This isn't entrapment, imo. The FBI now has a proven track record of taking known mentally unstable, but non violent, people and radicalizing them specifically to entrap them in terrorist plots they can publicly "foil". They are quite literally taking advantage of mentally ill individuals, pushing jihad down their throats, supplying them with the weapons to carry out attacks... and then arresting them and claiming they saved the day from radical Islamic terrorists when in reality they're anything but. It fuels the anti-Muslim hysteria, makes them look as if they're stopping terror plots, and perpetuates this endless war on terror. If you don't have a problem with this tactic... I don't know what to tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The FBI now has a proven track record of taking known mentally unstable, but non violent, people and radicalizing them specifically to entrap them in terrorist plots they can publicly "foil". They are quite literally taking advantage of mentally ill individuals, pushing jihad down their throats, supplying them with the weapons to carry out attacks... and then arresting them and claiming they saved the day from radical Islamic terrorists when in reality they're anything but. It fuels the anti-Muslim hysteria, makes them look as if they're stopping terror plots, and perpetuates this endless war on terror. If you don't have a problem with this tactic... I don't know what to tell you. Don't you think it's a little hasty to automatically assume these people are mentally unstable? And even if they were, it doesn't matter to me, because these people need to be locked away one way or another. They have evil in them. They're willing to kill. These aren't good or innocent people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 That's a big reason for Brexit! England had a terrorist "watch list" with about 3500-4000 names. Belgium has over 18,000! Have not seen any numbers from France, but people are fed up with the BS, and are doing all they can to limit and eventually end it! To late. Europe is doomed due to political correctness. The EU and Merkel are as evil as it gets. Europe are a bunch of suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Don't you think it's a little hasty to automatically assume these people are mentally unstable? And even if they were, it doesn't matter to me, because these people need to be locked away one way or another. They have evil in them. They're willing to kill. These aren't good or innocent people. It's not an assumption, it's a proven fact that the majority of folks being entrapped by the FBI in these stings are mentally unstable. With no proclivity towards violence... until after the FBI radicalizes them. There's years of news stories about this, here's a smattering but do your own digging and you'll see that's a common theme. https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/ https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/ http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-is-manufacturing-terrorism-cases-2016-6 http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/do-f-b-i-stings-help-the-fight-against-isis The FBI is using your religion against you, and making people fear it. They're fueling the hate by manipulating some of the most vulnerable people in our society and turning them into jihadists explicitly for the purposes of making arrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) i'm don't think the FBI operates outside of the US borders. MI6... now that might just be a different story... Edited May 26, 2017 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 It's not an assumption, it's a proven fact that the majority of folks being entrapped by the FBI in these stings are mentally unstable. With no proclivity towards violence... until after the FBI radicalizes them. There's years of news stories about this, here's a smattering but do your own digging and you'll see that's a common theme. https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/ https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/ http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-is-manufacturing-terrorism-cases-2016-6 http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/do-f-b-i-stings-help-the-fight-against-isis The FBI is using your religion against you, and making people fear it. They're fueling the hate by manipulating some of the most vulnerable people in our society and turning them into jihadists explicitly for the purposes of making arrests. Makes you wonder who's following who's playbook, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 {joesixpack} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 this one goes out to Gatorboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 this. fears of being "racist" permeate our societies today. Targeting the proper suspects is exactly how Israel deals with this situiaton. They've been able to do a phenomenal job staying safe considering their location. It's not as if we don't know the areas and neighborhoods where extremists have a stronghold. The western world just fails to use this information in the name of freedom and justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Targeting the proper suspects is exactly how Israel deals with this situiaton. They've been able to do a phenomenal job staying safe considering their location. It's not as if we don't know the areas and neighborhoods where extremists have a stronghold. The western world just fails to use this information in the name of not appearing to be racist. Fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Not that I would waste money on a Heineken anyway, but still...this is on their bottles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Not that I would waste money on a Heineken anyway, but still...this is on their bottles? **** on the outside and the inside. At least they're consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Mass surveillance was sold as a tool used to stop terrorist attacks, yet over and over again we're seeing known wolves carry out these attacks despite being under intense surveillance. These tools were never designed to stop terrorist attacks, they were designed to control the civilian population. So when is the next shoe dropping? What will it look like? 1984? Brazil? Logan's Run? Minority Report? Porky's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 So when is the next shoe dropping? What will it look like? 1984? Brazil? Logan's Run? Minority Report? Porky's? Cannonball Run (after the passing of Roger Moore, I had an entertaining discussion at work on Cannonball Run vs Smokey & the Bandit ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Cannonball Run (after the passing of Roger Moore, I had an entertaining discussion at work on Cannonball Run vs Smokey & the Bandit ) Most definitely Cannonball Run. But not as good as Gumball Rally. What's behind me, is not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Logan's Run? When the next shoe drops, it'll look like a young Farrah Fawcett in a see-through? I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 So when is the next shoe dropping? What will it look like? 1984? Brazil? Logan's Run? Minority Report? Porky's? Incorporating the ISIS flag into the COEXIST bumper sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Incorporating the ISIS flag into the COEXIST bumper sticker. I love those bumper stickers when people that have them often believe in diversity good. Different tribes often don't coexist. It's in our DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I love those bumper stickers when people that have them often believe in diversity good. Different tribes often don't coexist. It's in our DNA. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 But "Cumbaya" is such a cool song that emits such warm-fuzzy feelings. And let's not forget... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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