#34fan Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 What don't you get? I am talking about the Bills last possession of the game. At 4:16 in OT. Everything else you describe is exactly what he gets paid for. And I have complained plenty about Carpenter and his 4 of 9 from 40-49 yards. But this thread is about Sammy. OMG, you're still here?!!! We hauled the bombed-out remains of your argument to the dumpster where it belonged in the first place. At that point in the game, with that field position, down & distance, etc, no rational observer thinks it shows "maturity" for Sammy to risk injury, fumbling the ball, and possibly turning it over... I'll refer you back to rest of that possession.. Sammy's catch put us at 3rd & 3 at their 40! at 3rd and 3, WHY IS TT PASSING AT ALL???! -Shady's on the field!... If there's any immaturity there, it's in the playcalling... I suggest you reign-in your Sammy-hatred long enough to see the multitude of other things that went wrong in that game... -Pick a different one, maybe?
OldNMBillsFan Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) OMG, you're still here?!!! We hauled the bombed-out remains of your argument to the dumpster where it belonged in the first place. At that point in the game, with that field position, down & distance, etc, no rational observer thinks it shows "maturity" for Sammy to risk injury, fumbling the ball, and possibly turning it over... I'll refer you back to rest of that possession.. Sammy's catch put us at 3rd & 3 at their 40! at 3rd and 3, WHY IS TT PASSING AT ALL???! -Shady's on the field!... If there's any immaturity there, it's in the playcalling... I suggest you reign-in your Sammy-hatred long enough to see the multitude of other things that went wrong in that game... -Pick a different one, maybe? This is the most absurd argument I have ever heard of. In a must win game to stay in the hunt for a playoff spot. With only 4 minutes left in OT, a tie does not help. And you are saying Sammy shows maturity for not trying to get extra yardage . This is classic man crush!! I will agree with what you said about the play calling, but again, this is about Sammy. And I believe, if he gives it a full effort on that play, he gets and extra 2 yards making it 3rd and one. Changing the scenario enough that the Bills think about running it twice if needed for the first down. Again, a tie does not help and there was only 4 minutes left in the game. For the record, I don't hate Sammy. I hate that play because of the lack of effort. And it couldn't have happened at a worse time in the season. Edited May 21, 2017 by OldNMBillsFan
xRUSHx Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 Players attitudes always change in last year of contract unless they are being overpaid on a franchise tag like Byrd.I agree,In my opinion Sammy will be consintrating on staying healthy and catching anything that comes near him like always but will stop putting himself in harm's way to run block for our running QB. I see Sammy having a healthy year and that's all he needs to get his next big contract from the Bills or some other team.
#34fan Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 This is the most absurd argument I have ever heard of. In a must win game to stay in the hunt for a playoff spot. With only 4 minutes left in OT, a tie does not help. And you are saying Sammy shows maturity for not trying to get extra yardage . This is classic man crush!! I will agree with what you said about the play calling, but again, this is about Sammy. And I believe, if he gives it a full effort on that play, he gets and extra 2 yards making it 3rd and one. Changing the scenario enough that the Bills think about running it twice if needed for the first down. Again, a tie does not help and there was only 4 minutes left in the game. For the record, I don't hate Sammy. I hate that play because of the lack of effort. And it couldn't have happened at the worst time in the season. Yah... DOA. -Your argument, that is... If Sammy were a big TE, or RB. -Perhaps... But expecting our main WR to take on 2LB's and a safety running with a full head of steam is just stupid on it's face... With Tyrod and Shady on the field, we should've had that 3rd and 3... End of story.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 People are complaining that Sammy isn't trying to run over defenders? This board is getting dumber by the day.
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 People are complaining that Sammy isn't trying to run over defenders? This board is getting dumber by the day. I just dont understand why anyone would even want that given his injury issues the last 2 years. He does so much more for this team on the field then on the trainer's table
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 I just dont understand why anyone would even want that given his injury issues the last 2 years. He does so much more for this team on the field then on the trainer's table It blows my mind. Yeah, the number skill of an elite receiver is their ability to try and run over tacklers. Marvin Harrison literally dove to the ground after catches.
#34fan Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 People are complaining that Sammy isn't trying to run over defenders? This board is getting dumber by the day. It blows my mind. Yeah, the number skill of an elite receiver is their ability to try and run over tacklers. Marvin Harrison literally dove to the ground after catches. Look, he would have gotten D E S T R O Y E D on that play.... Absolutely obliterated... No question he did the right thing... I'm hoping for an offense that gives him more opportunities.. -And not ones to kill himself.
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 Look, he would have gotten D E S T R O Y E D on that play.... Absolutely obliterated... No question he did the right thing... I'm hoping for an offense that gives him more opportunities.. -And not ones to kill himself. But if he would have attempted to run them over and got a concussion, he would prove his toughness!!!
3rdand12 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 if it was game one of the season, sure.but every yard mattered and it was the season on the line.
Tenhigh Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 ...may need to so he can find 'em open.....GPS maybe??............ Sonar?
What a Tuel Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Thanks for proving my point. Again, this was overtime, in a must win game to have a chance to end the playoff drought, and your princess Sammy comes up small on a play that the team needed more from him. I pay to watch the NFL, not flag football. I expected him to lower his head and fight for the first down. Anything less, and I feel robed as a customer. This type of play is exactly why the Bills haven't been to the playoffs in the last 17 years. I hope Coach McD can change the "me first" mentality of some of the players. I hope Sammy is more mature and becomes a team player and has a pro bowl season. But as I sat there watching this game, and seen this lack of effort from probably the most talented player on the team, I knew the season was over. If one of your most talented players is not willing to sacrifice himself for the team, then how can you expect anyone else to. Some of you are allow your man crush on Sammy to cloud your judgment. I think we are done here. You make things up as you go along to insult or belittle the team. I showed you pictures of 3 defenders ready to annihilate Watkins, and you take it as proof Watkins should've taken that punishment to get an unattainable 1st down, just to make you happy. Give me a break.
NoSaint Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Sammy is 2 first round picks that because of injuries he has played like a 4th rounder. He has to stay healthy to improve. If we get half of what we should from his pick position I will be pleased You must be seeing different fourth rounders than I am
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