Deranged Rhino Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Wonder how much Trump spent to pay off the judge... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Wonder how much Trump spent to pay off the judge... We will need at least 3 Congressional committees and an independent special counsel to find out. It will only take 3 years and a total budget of $450,000,000 to get to the bottom of this dastardly conspiracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Wonder how much Trump spent to pay off the judge... The Ironside defense ploy must have worked. Edited March 8, 2019 by Uncle Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 The video/reactions are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I don't understand this thread but I'm always willing to learn... 2 guys very close to Trump and part of his election team are going to prison. So these guys were acting on their own? That's hard to buy. Seems like a lot of celebrating for Manafort "only getting 47 months." How is this not bad for Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, section122 said: I don't understand this thread but I'm always willing to learn... 2 guys very close to Trump and part of his election team are going to prison. So these guys were acting on their own? That's hard to buy. Seems like a lot of celebrating for Manafort "only getting 47 months." How is this not bad for Trump? Shirley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, section122 said: I don't understand this thread but I'm always willing to learn... 2 guys very close to Trump and part of his election team are going to prison. So these guys were acting on their own? That's hard to buy. Seems like a lot of celebrating for Manafort "only getting 47 months." How is this not bad for Trump? What he was convicted of has nothing to do with President Trump or the Trump administration. At all. Zero. Nada. Bupkiss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: Wonder how much Trump spent to pay off the judge... Awesome tibs impersonation. Truly entertaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, section122 said: I don't understand this thread but I'm always willing to learn... 2 guys very close to Trump and part of his election team are going to prison. So these guys were acting on their own? That's hard to buy. Seems like a lot of celebrating for Manafort "only getting 47 months." How is this not bad for Trump? First, it's no shame to say you don't understand this thread. For one thing, it's massive and meandering. A lot of baseline information is buried 200+ pages back. Second, Manafort was in all likelihood a plant and not working on his own (but also not for Trump). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Uncle Joe said: The Ironside defense ploy must have worked. Calling a guy in a wheelchair “Ironsides” is insensitive. Shame on you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (Give me some time and I'll pull up a summary for you, @section122 which you can read and gauge for yourself.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeginnersMind Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, section122 said: I don't understand this thread but I'm always willing to learn... 2 guys very close to Trump and part of his election team are going to prison. So these guys were acting on their own? That's hard to buy. Seems like a lot of celebrating for Manafort "only getting 47 months." How is this not bad for Trump? I agree with others here that there is no evidence of Trump collusion with Russia. But i also see that he surrounds himself with dirtbags and has a long history of shady affairs. He’s a bad dude and it’s a continuing shame that we don’t demand more from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: He’s a bad dude and it’s a continuing shame that we don’t demand more from him. And what would be on your wish list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GG said: And what would be on your wish list? As a voter I like someone of higher moral fiber. Someone who doesn’t act on whims. Someone who considers the possibility that the people around him know what they are talking about. Someone not obsessed with his perception in the media. But I’m still impressed by some of the things he’s been able to do despite his inability to engage the majority of the country. Edited March 8, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 52 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: As a voter I like someone of higher moral fiber. Someone who doesn’t act on whims. Someone who considers the possibility that the people around him know what they are talking about. Someone not obsessed with his perception in the media. But I’m still impressed by some of the things he’s been able to do despite his inability to engage the majority of the country. All of his personal traits were on full display and acknowledged as a risk leading up to the election. Since then, he's defied every reasonable doubter by being a pretty darned good POTUS. The only criticism now left is from Sally Fields of the world who cannot imagine that others won't like them because the President acts out a boorish persona. The people for whom results matter more than style, don't give a damn. The ironic part is that people who know and interact with Trump the person, as opposed to Trump the public persona, almost always refer to him as a nice guy. Funny, how that is, right? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Manafort was rich and well connected--on both sides of the Atlantic!--so he gets a light sentence. Shocking display of how the wealthy get treated in the criminal justice system. Quote Scott Hechinger, a senior staff attorney at Brooklyn Defender Services, an organization that provides legal representation to defendants who cannot afford it, used one of his recent clients, who was just offered a 36-to-72-month sentence, as an example. The crime? Stealing $100-worth of quarters from a residential laundry room. Hechinger’s client may wind up doing more time than Manafort, a man who defrauded the Internal Revenue Service out of $6 million. https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2019/03/08/legal-community-lashes-out-inequity-manaforts-mind-boggling-month-sentence/?utm_term=.50129666bb4c GG=Total f'n idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Interesting that they don't tell you that the only way a 3 to 6 year indeterminate sentence is legal in NY is that the client is a second felony offender, and that prison is mandatory. Being a "residential laundry room", he is likely charged with Burglary 2nd, a class C violent felony with a maximum sentence of 15 years (plus a period of post-release parole supervision.) Pleading it down to Burglary 3rd (a non-violent felony) with that sentence isn't necessarily the worst deal in the world, especially if the guy has previous violent felony convictions on his record. Edited March 8, 2019 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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