Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, sabrecrazed said: Right... you mean the ones with original government doc s in them? The people who actually tell you where they get there information? People who are actually investigating the subject? Or is he linking to known barons of truth like buzzfeed and their anonymous sources? The average person who actually pays attention can figure out who is trying to confuse. But you haven't made it to average yet so you wouldn't understand. I'm above average enough to know that someone who posts ten thousand things and then makes an outlandish claims and says see, its clear as day, just spend a day or two reading the whole thing, or just trust me, is full of sh it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm above average enough to know that someone who posts ten thousand things and then makes an outlandish claims and says see, its clear as day, just spend a day or two reading the whole thing, or just trust me, is full of sh it Looking in the mirror? Edited January 18, 2019 by Wacka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm above average enough to know that someone who posts ten thousand things and then makes an outlandish claims and says see, its clear as day, just spend a day or two reading the whole thing, or just trust me, is full of sh it Even if everything your dumb ass just posted was true [laughable]. It doesn't change the fact that if douchebag actually wanted the answer to the question he posed... he could get it on his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Kemp said: Is this the list I requested that Rhino couldn't come up with? Atkinson is the anti-vaxxer. You guys are anti-vaxxers? I thought that those loons were Liberals. She is clearly a deep thinker. Never heard of Carter so I had to look her up. She seems to be most famous for always using unnamed sources (I thought you guys don't accapt that as verifiable) and appearing on Hannitty. She has appeared on a few Fox opinion shows but I can't find one instance of an appearance on a straight news show. Strassel is legit. I just disagree with her views (obviously), especially on Pruitt. Thanks for posting some names. You have more guts than Rhino. This only proves that you're lazy and disingenuous. The sample list provided by 3rd is something that you could have easily obtained on your own by reading any of the dozens of threads devoted to this topic. Your dismissals of the sources underscores the point as well. If you're looking for the truth, but unwilling to trust anyone who doesn't work for the main 3 broadcast networks, or the major national papers, then you aren't willing to have an open mind on this topic. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I figured you be criticizing law enforcement for leaking this. Do you really, actually think Cohen was just lying all on his own about Trump's hotel deal, just because? The funny thing is, that it's almost like who cares. He is a dead man walking anyway. Where did I criticize Law Enforcement for leaking this? This wasn't leaked by law enforcement, it was leaked by an anonymous source which we're given no information aboutin the article itself. The truth is, if Cohen had evidence to support this claim he never would have been sentenced. This is the type of information that rats use to skate free. So that's strike one. Strike two is the fact that they had Trump under FISA surveillance during this time period. He doesn't use email, so the only evidence they could have are tapes of conversations between Trump and Cohen. If they had those then they would have acted immediately (because the charge is a big deal) rather than let him appoint not one but two SCOTUS picks. Bottom line is Buzzfeed, and these two journalists in particular, have a bad track record of these sorts of unsourced, evidence free stories blowing up in their faces. 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: No, he posts tweets from wing nuts and silly sources that are simply meant to confuse, fatigue and spread misinformation. False. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Where did I criticize Law Enforcement for leaking this? This wasn't leaked by law enforcement, it was leaked by an anonymous source which we're given no information aboutin the article itself. The truth is, if Cohen had evidence to support this claim he never would have been sentenced. This is the type of information that rats use to skate free. So that's strike one. Woooo!! Slow down. I said I was surprised you didn't because that is the source of the report, according to Buzzfeed. The second part is not true, he could have evidence that showed HE lied. A Rat? You call him a rat. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Woooo!! Slow down. I said I was surprised you didn't because that is the source of the report, according to Buzzfeed. The second part is not true, he could have evidence that showed HE lied. A Rat? You call him a rat. Ok The second part is absolutely true. Mueller applied the pressure to Cohen for months, he went through great lengths to get his sentence reduced. If he had this smoking gun, he would have never been charged. Why? Because charging him for lying to Congress makes him a very ***** witness to call when you need his testimony to prove the smoke gun. These are the same two reporters who keep pushing the Cohen was in Prague story - one he denies, his attorney denies, and Mueller's team denies. Now they are making more claims about Cohen, without providing sourcing or evidence to support it... and we're supposed to take it on face value? The truth is what I said last night. The Ohr/Page testimony leaking has done tremendous damage to the claims of the FBI/DOJ/MSM complex. This story is a predictable attempt to change the focus. The likelihood of it being true are about the same as the likelihood of you not flubbing the response to this post. 29 minutes ago, GG said: This only proves that you're lazy and disingenuous. The sample list provided by 3rd is something that you could have easily obtained on your own by reading any of the dozens of threads devoted to this topic. He also could have figured out the truth about his doxxing attempt by reading... Kemp isn't a big thinker. He's an asshat, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: This whole Trump Tower deal in Russia is farcical. I'm familiar with real estate development and I haven't seen one specific regarding the deal. The LOI that purportedly Trump's organization had was most likely an agreement with an entity in Russia who was to find a location for a fee. No location, price or any due diligence specifics have been quoted. There was no f'n deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Quote CBS NewsVerified account @CBSNews FollowFollow @CBSNews "If this Buzzfeed News report is true... then we are likely on our way to possible impeachment proceedings because this is black and white, a very easily provable or chargeable crime," @paulareidcbs said on President Trump reportedly directing Michael Cohen to lie to Congress. A journalist report of news should never ever and I mean Never include “if this is true”. Simply irresponsible journalism. You either know what you know with strong supporting evidence or you don’t. Journalists reporting like this is why we have ‘Fake News’.... Quote MollieVerified account @MZHemingway 2h2 hours ago Which is why something close to 99% of media coverage on this story is infuriating. Meanwhile, reporting actual facts on FBI/DOJ malfeasance is ignored by same group. . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Hedge said: (Thread) Former Clinton lawyers, too. 17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: This whole Trump Tower deal in Russia is farcical. I'm familiar with real estate development and I haven't seen one specific regarding the deal. The LOI that purportedly Trump's organization had was most likely an agreement with an entity in Russia who was to find a location for a fee. No location, price or any due diligence specifics have been quoted. There was no f'n deal. Again, it's an example of how the only verifiable and objective "evidence" in these accusations reduces to nothing more than "he talked to Russians about something." Which is a weak-ass level of proof for "conspiracy" or "collusion." 3 hours ago, Kemp said: The truth about Rhino is that he is not a researcher, at all. He is a follower of an aggregator on Twitter. How impressive! No, he's a researcher. You want to cast aspersions on the quality of his conclusions, fine. I'm at most in half-agreement with him. But he's far more than just a Twitter aggregator on a football message board, and is far better informed than you are. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Does anyone really believe that Ivanka was going to move her family to Moscow to manage a spa? Quote Stephen MillerVerified account @redsteeze 25m25 minutes ago If you don't want people questioning the accuracy and legitimacy of your reporting when questions arise, then don't hire reporters with a history of inaccuracy and illegitimate reporting! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Buzzfeed is already backing off the article. Now who on the above list has connections to the Buzzfeed editorial staff and board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 President Pelosi is trending on twitter... Meanwhile, the Buzzfeed story is crumbling. Hope-ium is a never ending source of amusement. "This time we REALLY got him!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The second part is absolutely true. Mueller applied the pressure to Cohen for months, he went through great lengths to get his sentence reduced. If he had this smoking gun, he would have never been charged. Why? Because charging him for lying to Congress makes him a very ***** witness to call when you need his testimony to prove the smoke gun. These are the same two reporters who keep pushing the Cohen was in Prague story - one he denies, his attorney denies, and Mueller's team denies. Now they are making more claims about Cohen, without providing sourcing or evidence to support it... and we're supposed to take it on face value? No, you are totally wrong all around here. If he had a smoking gun he WOULDN'T be charged? Oh come on. And no these are not the same reporters. You are just factually incorrect. Is that on purpose? Trying to spread fake news here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: President Pelosi is trending on twitter... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No, you are totally wrong all around here. If he had a smoking gun he WOULDN'T be charged? Oh come on. That's how copping a plea works. 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And no these are not the same reporters. You are just factually incorrect. Is that on purpose? Trying to spread fake news here? They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Trump is losing it. Cohen's exposing Trump's suborning of perjury has him in full temper tantrum mode. He tweeted that muslim prayer rugs have been found at Mexican border. What a complete joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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