row_33 Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Basic dignity and class were totally lacking in Hill and The Donald. Joe can provide that, may need an overrated dose of them by 2020.. Will be interesting to see if the Dems want to co-opt the 43% (and probably more) in 2020 that voted fully in support of Sanders in the 2016 primaries. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted May 19, 2017 Author Posted May 19, 2017 Now who would this be? @CNBC BREAKING: Russia investigation identifies current White House official as 'significant person of interest' -WashPost http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/19/a-white-house-official-close-to-trump-is-a-significant-person-of-interest-in-russia-probe-wapo.html
grinreaper Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Now who would this be? @CNBC BREAKING: Russia investigation identifies current White House official as 'significant person of interest' -WashPost http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/19/a-white-house-official-close-to-trump-is-a-significant-person-of-interest-in-russia-probe-wapo.html Ah, more breaking rumors, eh? 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 He's a moron. Just like his candidate predecessor, he voted for a war that has caused the death of over a million brown people and thousands of Americans. He got snookered by George Bush and Dick Cheney. What does that say about his judgement? You make a mistake this bad on the job, you get no do overs. Go away Joe. Trump wins a second term.
Azalin Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) Now who would this be? @CNBC BREAKING: Russia investigation identifies current White House official as 'significant person of interest' -WashPost http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/19/a-white-house-official-close-to-trump-is-a-significant-person-of-interest-in-russia-probe-wapo.html Why don't you go out on a limb and tell us? You apparently know more than anyone in the Washington press does, because nobody has been named as actually doing anything, and all information comes from either memos, the contents of which were described by an unnamed third party, or was revealed by unnamed, unidentified, or anonymous sources. Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe you have no idea who this official is, and you're just a pawn for the leftist/statist puppeteers. Edited May 19, 2017 by Azalin
row_33 Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Trump wins a second term. it would be great, see the butthurt continue non-stop for 8 solid years
26CornerBlitz Posted May 19, 2017 Author Posted May 19, 2017 Ah, more breaking rumors, eh? Why don't you go out on a limb and tell us? You apparently know more than anyone in the Washington press does, because nobody has been named as actually doing anything, and all information comes from either memos, the contents of which were described by an unnamed third party, or was revealed by unnamed, unidentified, or anonymous sources. Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe you have no idea who this official is, and you're just a pawn for the leftist/statist puppeteers. Time to lawyer up!
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 it would be great, see the butthurt continue non-stop for 8 solid years I'd prefer lifting term limits... It is where we went wrong. Either way, it takes more than 8 years to pack a court. And yes... I am fine with society going conservative OR liberal, it is just this middle of the road BS keeps everything swinging back and forth. I agree... Turmoil, hard times brings real change.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Why don't you go out on a limb and tell us? You apparently know more than anyone in the Washington press does, because nobody has been named as actually doing anything, and all information comes from either memos, the contents of which were described by an unnamed third party, or was revealed by unnamed, unidentified, or anonymous sources. Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe you have no idea who this official is, and you're just a pawn for the leftist/statist puppeteers. I just wanted to add this, though I agree with your overall sentiment: (and this isn't directed at you, just your post sparked it) Dragging this "scandal" down into partisan fighting is exactly the intent of those pushing it. The people on the left and right parroting their chosen narratives aren't doing so out of malice but out of a deep concern for the country. It's the people manipulating the narrative, and triggering the hyper partisanship on both sides, who are the ones to blame. That should be the target of scorn and anger - not our fellow citizens. This isn't a right or left issue, it's not a Trump or anti-trump issue, it's not even Russia vs the US - that's all noise designed to distract. This is about a segment of the IC fighting to preserve the regime change legacy of the past 16 years. Nothing more. If you strip away all the rhetoric, if you strip away all the innuendo, the true motive driving this story becomes clear: 1) A segment off the IC wants to preserve the empire (which means more regime change wars) over the country 2) The DNC wants to blame anyone but themselves for their failure in 16. 3) The MSM, who was all in for Hillary, want to save face by giving the people a boogeyman to blame for why their predictions were wrong. Track that back to 2011, long before Trump was relevant, and you'll see all the pieces being aligned for exactly this moment - if not by design than by happy coincidence. I say all to as a reminder now is not the time to give into partisan bickering. This is the time we need to come together as a country to save the republic - not from Russia, not from Trump, but from the unelected powers that are controlling the policies and agendas of this nation. The threat we are all facing is an internal one, not an external one. But it is an existential threat.
Azalin Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Time to lawyer up! Okay, I see my 2nd assumption was the correct one. Carry on.
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Okay, I see my 2nd assumption was the correct one. Carry on. Dude, he's just an idiot who offers nothing other than aggregation.
Benjamin Franklin Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) Not shocking you've completely missed the point. The point isn't that money corrupts and always has. It's that our system of government has changed without our consent. That's not the same thing as "influence". We no longer live in the democratic republic outlined by the Constitution. This is not even up for debate as it's a fact. We've codified bribery into the legislative and executive branches, increased the authoritarian scope of the presidency, made corporations people, made money equal to speech, created the world's most advanced surveillance state to keep the plebs in line (and more importantly, to blackmail the elected officials who might dare to march out of step), and completely disenfranchised the majority of American citizens... all within the last 16 years. All without a vote, a constitutional amendment, or even a national discussion on the topic. Your defense is, "that's how it's always been in history and how it always will be" -- which is not only missing the point, it's dangerously naive. You should take your mind reading machine to your idol at the Hyperspace Research Institute. Your post also supports my argument. How do you think the Republic fell in Rome? Do you think Julius just showed up one day and became Emporrer? Edited May 19, 2017 by Benjamin Franklin
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 You should take your mind reading machine to your idol at the Hyperspace Research Institute. Maybe he can fix it. The words of a man who has nothing to offer. Your take on this issue, is unsurprisingly weak minded and dangerous. Your inability to think for yourself shows its colors once again. Good luck, you're going to need it.
Azalin Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 I just wanted to add this, though I agree with your overall sentiment: (and this isn't directed at you, just your post sparked it) Dragging this "scandal" down into partisan fighting is exactly the intent of those pushing it. The people on the left and right parroting their chosen narratives aren't doing so out of malice but out of a deep concern for the country. It's the people manipulating the narrative, and triggering the hyper partisanship on both sides, who are the ones to blame. That should be the target of scorn and anger - not our fellow citizens. This isn't a right or left issue, it's not a Trump or anti-trump issue, it's not even Russia vs the US - that's all noise designed to distract. This is about a segment of the IC fighting to preserve the regime change legacy of the past 16 years. Nothing more. If you strip away all the rhetoric, if you strip away all the innuendo, the true motive driving this story becomes clear: 1) A segment off the IC wants to preserve the empire (which means more regime change wars) over the country 2) The DNC wants to blame anyone but themselves for their failure in 16. 3) The MSM, who was all in for Hillary, want to save face by giving the people a boogeyman to blame for why their predictions were wrong. Track that back to 2011, long before Trump was relevant, and you'll see all the pieces being aligned for exactly this moment - if not by design than by happy coincidence. I say all to as a reminder now is not the time to give into partisan bickering. This is the time we need to come together as a country to save the republic - not from Russia, not from Trump, but from the unelected powers that are controlling the policies and agendas of this nation. The threat we are all facing is an internal one, not an external one. But it is an existential threat. I won't dispute anything you're saying about various intel agencies and their involvement, mainly because I don't know enough about the subject to say either way. What pisses me off is: a) the wave of unverified information that our major news outlets are feeding us that they're getting from anonymous sources purportedly 'close to the president' that they are trying to pass off as hard news. b) the willingness to both believe and propagate it by the intellectually lazy and the true believer/bitter clingers. c) the fact that we have people supposedly working in the capacity of public service that apparently have no problem subverting the executive branch. Dude, he's just an idiot who offers nothing other than aggregation. I do like to offer people a chance though. Hell, it was at least two years before I put gator on ignore.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 19, 2017 Author Posted May 19, 2017 Dude, he's just an idiot who offers nothing other than aggregation. Good thing your name calling is the expected result that's easily anticipated.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 I won't dispute anything you're saying about various intel agencies and their involvement, mainly because I don't know enough about the subject to say either way. What pisses me off is: a) the wave of unverified information that our major news outlets are feeding us that they're getting from anonymous sources purportedly 'close to the president' that they are trying to pass off as hard news. b) the willingness to both believe and propagate it by the intellectually lazy and the true believer/bitter clingers. c) the fact that we have people supposedly working in the capacity of public service that apparently have no problem subverting the executive branch. Oh, you have every right to be upset - as should every thinking American. Remember two things: 1) We are, all of us, engaged in the world's first global information war. Information is being used as a weapon of mass distraction on a scale never before seen. 2) The most recent NDAA passed at the end of 2016 (more openly) legalized US propaganda through US news outlets by the State Department. We're at war. It's just a very different war than we've ever fought before. People are confused, people are triggered because people are being intentionally deluged with disinformation from US news sources on top of Russian, Chinese, Iranian et al sources. I just think the way through this is not to give in to that partisan triggering that's going on and instead focus our anger on the true threats.
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Good thing your name calling is the expected result that's easily anticipated. I'm always brutally honest, and that's the appearance you give. If you don't want that to be your reputation, then offer something else. 1
DC Tom Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Now who would this be? @CNBC BREAKING: Russia investigation identifies current White House official as 'significant person of interest' -WashPost http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/19/a-white-house-official-close-to-trump-is-a-significant-person-of-interest-in-russia-probe-wapo.html I just love how these leaks come out in dribs and drabs. Almost as if they're slow-rolling everything to keep it front-page.
26CornerBlitz Posted May 19, 2017 Author Posted May 19, 2017 I'm always brutally honest, and that's the appearance you give. If you don't want that to be your reputation, then offer something else. I have no worry about what you think or opine on with regard to what I offer. Carry on.
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