Tiberius Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Quote None other than Kenneth W. Starr is of the opinion that a president can be indicted. “President Clinton said in the civil setting—not criminal—I should be immune from a civil lawsuit during the course of my tenure as president, and the Supreme Court unanimously said, ‘No, Mr. President, there’s no basis in our rule of law, in constitutional order, for you to enjoy ... a timeout,’” Starr reasons. “As important as civil litigation is to the individual litigant and to the rule of law, the vindication of the criminal laws is all the more important.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED SO FAR House and Senate investigators get pride of place for unraveling one of the greatest dirty tricks of our political times, in which a Democratic administration, party and presidential campaign either co-opted or fooled the FBI into investigating the Republican campaign. Lawmakers got to the bottom of this despite partisan attacks and institutional obstruction. Congress has taken that probe about as far as was ever going to be possible. The next steps are up to the White House. In January 2017, CNN reported the explosive news that “classified documents” from a “credible” “former British intelligence operative” alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians. It sounded bad and set off a hysteria that led to the recusal of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the firing of national security adviser Mike Flynn, the launching of half a dozen investigations, and the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller. Senior officials, including Mr. Comey, watched all this in full knowledge of the dossier’s provenance. They said nothing. It was left to the House Intelligence Committee, under Chairman Devin Nunes, to extract the real story: that the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign hired opposition-research firm Fusion GPS, which in turn retained a British gun-for-hire (Christopher Steele) to compile the so-called dossier; that Fusion injected this into the FBI, the Justice Department and the State Department; that this political dirt was a part of the FBI’s decision to launch an unprecedented counterintelligence investigation (which included human informants) into a presidential campaign; that this dirt was also the basis for a surveillance warrant against former Trump aide Carter Page; that the “credible” Mr. Steele was fired by the FBI; and that the FBI withheld the most sordid details from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which granted said warrant. And we separately know the Obama administration was engaged in the unmasking of U.S. citizens and leaking of classified information. Congressional Republicans have the names, the actions, a timeline and the documents. The main elements are all there, and it’s thorough. Investigators tell me the only major open question is the role of Joseph Mifsud, the mysterious Maltese academic who approached then-Trump adviser George Papadopoulos in the spring of 2016. It’s unclear who, if anyone, Mr. Mifsud was allied with in that venture—the feds, the oppo players, former or current British intelligence? Congressional investigators were unable to track him down for an interview. Yet the public doesn’t have this full story yet… Whole thing here. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 9:30 AM, westside said: Does it matter which name you used in the past? Didn't think so. Merry Christmas - I'll enjoy that extra $100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, peace out said: Didn't think so. Merry Christmas - I'll enjoy that extra $100 Merry Christmas back at ya. I just donated the money to the build the wall gofund me page under your name. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 35 minutes ago, westside said: Merry Christmas back at ya. I just donated the money to the build the wall gofund me page under your name. ? Merry Christmas Westy! Hope you get tax write off for that donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Merry Christmas Republicans. Democrats...I know "Christmas" offends you, so instead I offer my sympathies over the 23rd anniversary of the dissolution of your worker's paradise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, westside said: Merry Christmas back at ya. I just donated the money to the build the wall gofund me page under your name. ? That's generous of you - thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/422592-steeles-curious-comments-suggest-dossier-was-insurance-plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 2:17 PM, westside said: Merry Christmas back at ya. I just donated the money to the build the wall gofund me page under your name. ? Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. Just another lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 The Mueller delusion by Matthew Walther https://theweek.com/articles/813343/mueller-delusion?utm_source=ntnlreview&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=nationalreview_partnership It's December, and you know what that means. It's Mueller time! Michael Flynn, the moderately distinguished ex-lieutenant general who served for all of 24 days as Trump's national security adviser and said some rude things on the campaign trail, narrowly avoided being sentenced to community service on Tuesday after pleading guilty to lying about a perfectly normal conversation with a Russian diplomat in late 2016. Judge Emmet Sullivan was in fine form, accusing Flynn of having "arguably" sold out his country, which is code for "getting caught in an obvious perjury trap." Flynn's sentencing will now be delayed until next year so he has more time to cooperate with Robert Mueller's special counsel probe into Russian election interference. So far his assistance has led to the indictment of two former business associates who are accused of having illegally lobbied for the extradition of a Muslim cleric on behalf of the Turkish government. Turkey and Russia share a sea border, folks. We don't know why Flynn lied, but we also have no idea why the FBI was asking him gotcha questions in the first place. It wasn't authorized by James Comey, the FBI director at the time. There are really only two possible reasons. One is that sentient adults considered indicting Flynn under the terms of the Logan Act, which is the prosecutorial equivalent of announcing a snipe hunt. Another is that Andrew McCabe, then the deputy director at the bureau, went rogue, the way law enforcement officers at every level do every day. I'll let readers decide which is more likely. {snip} Which is fine. That is the nature of politics. But let's stop pretending that this has much of anything to do with Russia's 2016 election meddling. President Trump performed worse than either Mitt Romney or John McCain among people who actually use the internet. His single best voting bloc was people who never go online — you know, elderly people, people too poor or too busy to mess around on social media. Who cares if the Russians spent gazillions of rubles trying to spread Trump-boosting fake news? That is not why Hillary Clinton lost. And it is certainly not why liberals are hanging on every tedious detail of Mueller's investigation. They don't see the special counsel's probe as a disinterested legal endeavor. For them Mueller is there to undermine a president they loathe. They are perfectly at liberty to feel this way. I'm sure Trump welcomes their hatred. But let's get real. Random meetings with randos? Not collusion. Cheating on taxes? Not collusion. Illegal campaign contributions? Not collusion. Sleeping with porn stars and lying about it with the help of some greasy tabloid maven? Disgusting but not collusion. Using public funds and subpoena power to cast doubt on the legitimacy of a president as he enters his third year of office? There is a word for that which we should all consider employing. It doesn't start with a C either. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, BigMcD said: Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. Just another lie? Obama said you can keep your own Dr. Is he a liar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, westside said: Obama said you can keep your own Dr. Is he a liar? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, BigMcD said: Yes. They're all liars. Everybody lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, westside said: They're all liars. Everybody lies. But every murderer is not a serial killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, BigMcD said: But every murderer is not a serial killer. If they were covered the same, the amount of "lies" told by this administration and the last would be equal, if not tilted towards 44. If you compare the damage done to the country by those lies told, 44 wins in a walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, BigMcD said: But every murderer is not a serial killer. You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? ***** you limp dick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? He's in a Special Class. Room 102 to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If they were covered the same, the amount of "lies" told by this administration and the last would be equal, if not tilted towards 44. If you compare the damage done to the country by those lies told, 44 wins in a walk. Yes the lies would be equal but Trump has only been in office for 2 years. 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: He's in a Special Class. Room 102 to be exact. Oh look, another cult member has shown up. You guys should get a ***** life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, BigMcD said: ***** you limp dick! pics or its *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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