B-Man Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 1. Original source reports something false 2. Other news orgs spread false report 3. After report has saturated the news, original source adds "correction" 4. News orgs that reported original report give corrected version minimal coverage 5. Damage done Journalist's original lie? Retweeted and liked over 20,000 times. Journalist's mea culpa? Retweeted once. One time. As in 1. It's weird how virtually every error of the past two years happens to skew in the same direction. ............."Make some law ?" . 2
Foxx Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1068613577345519616 more info at the thread. Edited November 30, 2018 by Foxx 1
Deranged Rhino Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/419193-trump-russia-and-lessons-from-the-mob-did-godfathers-steer-collusion?amp&__twitter_impression=true Quote Interviews with more than 50 witnesses in the Trump case and reviews of hundreds of pages of court filings confirm the following: At least six people with long-established ties to the FBI or to U.S. and Western intelligence made entrees to key figures in the Trump business organization or his presidential campaign between March and October 2016; Campaign figures were contacted by at least two Russian figures whose justification for being in the United States were rare law enforcement parole visas controlled by the U.S. Justice Department; Intelligence or diplomatic figures connected to two of America's closest allies, Britain and Australia, gathered intelligence or instigated contacts with Trump campaign figures during that same period; Some of the conversations and contacts that were monitored occurred on foreign soil and resulted in the creation of transcripts; Nearly all of the contacts involved the same overture - a discussion about possible political dirt or stolen emails harmful to Hillary Clinton, or unsolicited business in London or Moscow; Several of the contacts occurred before the FBI formally launched a legally authorized probe into the Trump campaign and possible collusion on July 31, 2016. The recipients of these overtures are all household names, thanks to the infamy of the now very public probe - Paul Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., Michael Cohen, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Sam Clovis and Roger Stone, to name a few. Some of the instigators of the contacts have been acknowledged in public: Professor Stefan Halper, Russian businessman Hank Greenberg, former MI6 agent Christopher Steele and former FBI informer Felix Sater, who is "Individual 2" identified in the Cohen plea deal this week. Others I identified through interviews, but U.S. officials have asked me to keep them private to avoid compromising their identities or nexus to intelligence and law enforcement work. The chances that so many would converge into then-candidate Donald Trump's circle, in such a short period around an election, are about as rare as winning the Mega Millionslottery. In other words, most were not coincidences. A few, maybe, but not all. And that leaves the biggest question: Who dispatched or controlled each emissary? At least two important bodies in Congress - the House Intelligence and Senate Judiciary committees - demanded to be secretly briefed on payments to "undercovers." They've been pretty tight-lipped since, except to express concerns that the public would be alarmed by what was divulged. Edited December 1, 2018 by Deranged Rhino
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 BTW here's a Buzzfeed article from March of this year where they out Sater as a known US IC asset: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/felix-sater-trump-russia-undercover-us-spy It's all coming out. Watch that clip - Sater says he's still an active US intelligence/FBI intelligence asset. (Then says he never worked for Robert Mueller... when he said he worked for the FBI while Mueller was director) 2
Witless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 5:35 PM, B-Man said: 1. Original source reports something false 2. Other news orgs spread false report 3. After report has saturated the news, original source adds "correction" 4. News orgs that reported original report give corrected version minimal coverage 5. Damage done Journalist's original lie? Retweeted and liked over 20,000 times. Journalist's mea culpa? Retweeted once. One time. As in 1. It's weird how virtually every error of the past two years happens to skew in the same direction. ............."Make some law ?" . Once people form a belief it is human nature to continue to maintain the initial belief even after learning the evidence used to form the belief is false. What the media does is a subtle form of brainwashing. 1
B-Man Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 "The problem is Mueller is straying away from his mandate to find crime and he is now looking for political sin." "Building buildings in Moscow, using stolen material from Assange. These are not crimes. He has no authority to be a roving commissioner to find political sins. So far, I don’t see any evidence of crimes except for ones that he helped to facilitate by getting people to lie in front of his own investigators."Said Alan Dershowitz quoted (with video) at Mediaite. .
B-Man Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 ANDREW MCCARTHY: Special Counsel Mueller is building a report, not a case. No prosecutor builds a case the way Mueller is going about it. What prosecutor says, “Here’s our witness line-up: Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Alex van der Zwaan, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen. And what is it that they have in common, ladies and gentlemen of the jury? Bingo! They’re all convicted liars.”? It’s been a scam from Day One. Plus: “Our main interest is in the crime we authorize prosecutors to investigate; we are not looking to have prosecutors manufacture crimes through the process of investigating — even if we agree that people should not be permitted to lie to investigators with impunity. With respect to the president and ‘collusion,’ Mueller does not have a crime he is investigating. He is investigating in hopes of finding a crime, which is a day-and-night different thing.” . 2
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1069221296171565066
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1069221296171565066 It is a travesty. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 Tuesday (most likely) Ol' Lankey is about to get his ass handed to him in a legal sense. (He doesn't want a public testimony. He wanted a reduced amount of time to be asked questions of a non classified variety. He's a coward, a liar, and in for a long 2019) *********************************** ************************* Hearing is scheduled for December 18th. 3
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 Adam Schiff makes a good point. At the same time Trump was urging sanctions relief for Russia he was trying to get a deal done in Moscow. And then lied to the country about it. Quote Trump’s bragging about seeking a deal with Russia engenders contempt from Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.): “Well whether it was legal or not remains to be seen. It certainly wasn’t very cool. More than that, it was very compromising of our country. In order for this Trump Tower deal to go through, sanctions had to be lifted on a Russian state bank. At the same time, Donald Trump is out there pushing to lift sanctions on Russia and this bank. There’s no way to describe that as cool or ethical or in the national interest.”
boyst Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 It's amazing how a-political FBI agents are so pissed. More amazing they are so professional that they're not screaming from rooftops
B-Man Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 If you think years-old information about a Trump Tower Moscow idea that went nowhere is shocking new proof of treasonous collusion, you’re either being deliberately dishonest, or you’re too ignorant of the facts to intelligently opine on the topic. For Trump, Cohen Plea Deal's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Exoneration by Paul Sperry Contrary to media speculation that Robert Mueller is closing in on President Trump, the special prosecutor’s plea deal with Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen offers further evidence that the Trump campaign did not collude with Russians during the 2016 election, according to congressional investigators and former prosecutors. Cohen pleaded guilty last week to making false statements in 2017 to the Senate intelligence committee about the Trump Organization’s failed efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Discussions about the so-called Moscow Project continued five months longer in 2016 than Cohen had initially stated under oath. More at the Link: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/12/02/actually_mueller_appears_to_be_exonerating_trump.html 1
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 Good read:http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/03/nevertrump-clings-to-russia-collusion-conspiracy-theory-despite-lack-of-evidence/
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 Lack of evidence? The dude was talking about sanctions relief while negotiating a deal that needed sanctions relief. American foreign policy bent to make Trump money.
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) *************************************** Edited December 3, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 1
Foxx Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1069664625141145600 https://twitter.com/hfinch63/status/1069647767646146560 Edited December 3, 2018 by Foxx 2
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