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18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

https://nypost.com/2018/11/28/trump-threatens-to-declassify-devastating-docs-about-democrats/

 

(can't be used as a bartering chip... still don't think it will be)

as i opined previously, this whole thing could just be a ploy to keep the other side at bay. no one is going to do anything so stupid as to drain the swamp. the dog and pony show will go marching on.

man i hope'm wrong....

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Aaand now we are back to Cohen/Sater and pretending he's a Russian asset rather than the truth- he's a US intelligence asset (Lynch) and the deal in question never left the discussion phase, and never involved 45. 

 

They  will spin this story hard but it's bull. Like  Prague. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1068147459396853760

 

(Not just a problem for Trump associates... Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe all lied to congress)https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1068154035088306178

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The Moscow Project also has enumerated dozens of contacts between Kremlin figures and the Trump campaign:

By the end of June, at least eight individuals involved with the Trump campaign — George Papadopoulos, then-Sen. Jeff Sessions, Michael Cohen, Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, and Rick Dearborn — reportedly had contacts or meetings with at least 13 Kremlin-linked individuals: Joseph Mifsud, the “Female Russian National,” Ivan Timofeev, Sergey Kislyak, Felix Sater, Rob Goldstone, Natalia Veselnitskaya, Rinat Akhmetshin, Irakly Kaveladze, Konstantin Kilimnik, Aleksander Torshin, Vladimir Putin, the individual who emailed Rick Dearborn, and, potentially, Oleg Deripaska. Though it is unknown how directly each individual was engaged in the Kremlin’s effort to support [President] Trump, both the number of meetings and contact and the high level of many of the participants on both sides offer key evidence of the two campaigns’ willingness to collude.

 

 

Nothing to see here, lol. Mueller sifting through this. 

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I'll say it again, as I just heard the spin during my commute:


Sater does NOT = Russian intelligence. He's "Russian born" but was an FBI informant (for organized crime) and worked for Lynch's DOJ for several years. Cohen and Sater leads back to Lynch and 44's administration, not Putin. 

 

My read is Cohen lied originally because he's wrapped up in organized crime, as is/was Sater, and that's what he was trying to obscure. By making him cop a new plea, Mueller gets to control the news cycle for the next day or so as people say, "more Trump team lies!" while no one goes deeper to see what it's really about. 

 

Here's the plea: 

https://www.justice.gov/file/1115566/download

 

Link to other documents (top of page)

https://www.justice.gov/sco

 

(individual 2 in the plea = Sater... more than likely)

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Acosta proving he's not a journalist but an activist... if he was a journalist he'd understand the Cohen news today backs up this statement:

 

It does?? How so? 

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Michael Cohen, a former personal attorney to President Trump, pleaded guilty Thursday in New York to lying to Congress about a Moscow real estate project that Trump and his company pursued during the months he was running for president.

 

Oh ya, nothing to see here...

 

 

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In a nine-page filing, prosecutors laid out a litany of lies that Cohen admitted he told to congressional lawmakers about the Moscow project — an attempt, Cohen said, to minimize links between the proposed development and Trump as his presidential bid was taking off.

Cohen falsely said efforts to build a Trump-branded tower in Moscow ended in January 2016, when in fact discussions continued through that year, the filing said. Among the people Cohen briefed on the status of the project was Trump himself, on more than three occasions, according to the document.

 

 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

It does?? How so? 

 

The deal never came together, thus - regardless of when the negotiations were happening, there was no deal.

 

Read Cohen's plea. He said he stopped talking with Sater about the deal in January of 16, now he says it was in June of 16, but the deal never materialized regardless. Meaning, Trump has no deals in Russia and never has. 

 

 

 

(2:1)

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3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

This is a point that, when made, makes NPC's heads implode

 

 

 

Someone as smart as you should know neither of these things are mutually exclusive.

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Just now, peace out said:

Someone as smart as you should know neither of these things are mutually exclusive.

 

They are when you insert the timeline told to us by Comey's FBI. 

 

They didn't know anything about it until Steele's dossier, per Comey's testimony. Then suddenly everyone in every IC outfit in the world knew. 

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