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"News stories that have caused Americans to think Trump conspired with a foreign power?"

 

(The most honest thing Gator will ever write - though he couldn't tell you why it's honest)

 

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:lol: Why oh why would that be necessary? 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

"News stories that have caused Americans to think Trump conspired with a foreign power?"

 

(The most honest thing Gator will ever write - though he couldn't tell you why it's honest)

 

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:lol: Why oh why would that be necessary? 

 

 

Yes, major news organizations have found out information! Imagine that! Only a clown like you would be surprised about that 

 

 

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President Obama must have signed off on FISA warrant to spy on candidate and President Trump!

 

President Obama would have had to approve the Carter Page warrant per law in order for the spying to proceed without a court hearing.  The rule is described on page 7 of 1978 FISA Act!


The Act reads as follows –

SEC. 102. ø50 U.S.C. 1802¿ (a)(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this title to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

President Obama must have signed off on FISA warrant to spy on candidate and President Trump!

 

President Obama would have had to approve the Carter Page warrant per law in order for the spying to proceed without a court hearing.  The rule is described on page 7 of 1978 FISA Act!


The Act reads as follows –

SEC. 102. ø50 U.S.C. 1802¿ (a)(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this title to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath.

 

 

 

No, he wouldn't.  The AG would.

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

But would require a POTUS sign off (if Lynch were smart, which she is) if this is true: 

 

 

"...the President, through the Attorney General..."

 

That is not a requirement that the President sign off on it...or even see it.  

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Just now, DC Tom said:

 

"...the President, through the Attorney General..."

 

That is not a requirement that the President sign off on it...or even see it.  

 

No, I agree. But we know he was in the loop on it all through the PDB, that's been proven. Lynch, being who she is, would want to cover her ass (see her email sent on Jan 20th 2016) and want 44 to give her cover to that kind of decision. There's (allegedly) a paper trail showing this happened. We'll find out soon. 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

President Obama must have signed off on FISA warrant to spy on candidate and President Trump!

 

President Obama would have had to approve the Carter Page warrant per law in order for the spying to proceed without a court hearing.  The rule is described on page 7 of 1978 FISA Act!


The Act reads as follows –

SEC. 102. ø50 U.S.C. 1802¿ (a)(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this title to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath.

 

 

You forgot "Bombshell!" 

 

As Trump's poll numbers keep slipping the desperation on the right to do and say anything is actually fun to watch 

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Where's Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate and when is he gonna carry out his secret Muslim plot! We've got to answer that question once and for all before we can fully expose this latest RussiaGate conspiracy!

 

It's amazing how entrenched you become to these things before quickly moving on once it's disposed of. Doesn't that sh*t get tiring? God Bless your stamina.

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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:

Where's Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate and when is he gonna carry out his secret Muslim plot! We've got to answer that question once and for all before we can fully expose this latest RussiaGate conspiracy!

 

It's amazing how entrenched you become to these things before quickly moving on once it's disposed of. Doesn't that sh*t get tiring? God Bless your stamina.

 

What does any of this have to do with the fact that the former President of the United States signed off on warrant to proceed with spying on US citizens, because they were his political enemies, without even so much as a hearing in a secret court?

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1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

What does any of this have to do with the fact that the former President of the United States signed off on warrant to proceed with spying on US citizens, because they were his political enemies, without even so much as a hearing in a secret court?

 

They'd been looking at Carter Page for years. Probably because his actions in Russia would be of interest to anyone involved in surveilling foreign intelligence. Just like Bruce Ohr had been a prominent prosecutor of the Russian Mafia and Peter Stroek had been leading FBI efforts against Russian influence. All of this before SideShow Don ever awkwardly stepped into the political arena.

 

Who'd a thunk they'd all intersect with the investigation into election interference BY THE RUSSIANS? Who'd a thunk that would intersect with the investigation into Trump? Must be a personal vendetta!

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8 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

 

They'd been looking at Carter Page for years. Probably because his actions in Russia would be of interest to anyone involved in surveilling foreign intelligence. Just like Bruce Ohr had been a prominent prosecutor of the Russian Mafia and Peter Stroek had been leading FBI efforts against Russian influence. All of this before SideShow Don ever awkwardly stepped into the political arena.

 

Who'd a thunk they'd all intersect with the investigation into election interference BY THE RUSSIANS? Who'd a thunk that would intersect with the investigation into Trump? Must be a personal vendetta!

 

If this is true, why did the court reject the warrant at least twice before the introduction of the dossier, why was the dossier never able to be substantiated, why was Page surveilled as a direct Russian agent, why were normal procedures bypassed in favor of skipping American citizens only protections of their 4th Amendment rights?

 

And, I'll ask a second time, what does anything that you posted have to do with the fact that the former President of the United States signed off on warrant to proceed with spying on US citizens, because they were his political enemies, without even so much as a hearing in a secret court?

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57 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

 

They'd been looking at Carter Page for years. Probably because his actions in Russia would be of interest to anyone involved in surveilling foreign intelligence. =

 

Was that before or after he helped the FBI bust a ring of Russian spies? Page worked for the FBI through 2014 as a UI and his work lead to indictments. 

 

But, details.

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13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Was that before or after he helped the FBI bust a ring of Russian spies? Page worked for the FBI through 2014 as a UI and his work lead to indictments. 

 

But, details.

But he's a newbie and isn't up to date on all that has been going on in the last 2 1/2 years. Can you update him?

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Has Mr. Schiff still not commented on the outright lies told in the minority's "memo"? 

 

Wonder what else they've been lying about (and running from). 


Declassification coming soon. And it's going to be fun watch the narrative engineers scramble once again to reset the foundation of this whole kerfuffle. 

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9 hours ago, Tiberius said:

But no knowledge of why the special council was appointed? News stories that have caused Americans to think Trump conspired with a foreign power? You know nothing at all about that? 

 

Charges follow investigations, not the other way around 

 

That's funny!

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