Tiberius Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Exactly. Here's a great illustrative example: She made Putin hate her. I'm on her side there for sure.
Kelly101 Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, gatorbait said: I’m not saying this is collusion or worthy of impeaching Trump but Don Jr did solicit the info and it seems like it would fit the “other thing of value” criteria. I only bring this up because it seems this is what Mueller is focusing on for his case. Followed by any obstruction related to the meeting and Russia investigation in general. Is the consensus here it was a routine practice and nothing will come of it? Is it possible that Mueller will squeeze Trump and force him to resign by going after his son? Personally, the meeting seems common practice and SOP in politics but the lying and changing stories about it makes it worse. Greg has done a good job outlining what really transpired behind the scenes for the infamous meeting but most of America will never know about that stuff. On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Good morning Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin. What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly? I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. Best Rob Goldstone On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back? Best, Don On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you? I assume it would be at your office. Best Rob Goldstone On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote: How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up. D If hillary the hag patriot hadn't bleached her servers, can only imagine the criminal **** they would have dredged up. 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: She made Putin hate her. I'm on her side there for sure. you're on her side because you both hate america
Tiberius Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, gatorbait said: I’m not saying this is collusion or worthy of impeaching Trump but Don Jr did solicit the info and it seems like it would fit the “other thing of value” criteria. I only bring this up because it seems this is what Mueller is focusing on for his case. Followed by any obstruction related to the meeting and Russia investigation in general. Is the consensus here it was a routine practice and nothing will come of it? Is it possible that Mueller will squeeze Trump and force him to resign by going after his son? Personally, the meeting seems common practice and SOP in politics but the lying and changing stories about it makes it worse. Greg has done a good job outlining what really transpired behind the scenes for the infamous meeting but most of America will never know about that stuff. On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Good morning Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin. What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly? I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. Best Rob Goldstone On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back? Best, Don On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you? I assume it would be at your office. Best Rob Goldstone On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote: How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up. D And in hindsight we know that there was activity to weaponize information stolen from emails. They were coordinated to influence the campaign as is shown in what you posted. Not 38 minutes after the access hollywood tape came out Wikileaks was dumping more Hillary stuff
gatorbait Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kelly101 said: tee hee hillary the patriot benghazi, private servers, uranium please you and all your america hating alt accounts go somewhere else That’s pathetic and you can do better than that. Try that defense in court and see what happens. ”Your honor, I may have gotten caught with a dead hooker, but the Clintons had a bunch more people killed than me!”
Kelly101 Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And in hindsight we know that there was activity to weaponize information stolen from emails. They were coordinated to influence the campaign as is shown in what you posted. Not 38 minutes after the access hollywood tape came out Wikileaks was dumping more Hillary stuff how much does soros pay u bots 3 minutes ago, gatorbait said: That’s pathetic and you can do better than that. Try that defense in court and see what happens. ”Your honor, I may have gotten caught with a dead hooker, but the Clintons had a bunch more people killed than me!” tee hee I feel stupid even posting responses to america hating morons. i'm done now enjoy socialism jackhole. Edited August 6, 2018 by Kelly101
Nanker Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, gatorbait said: I’m not saying this is collusion or worthy of impeaching Trump but Don Jr did solicit the info and it seems like it would fit the “other thing of value” criteria. I only bring this up because it seems this is what Mueller is focusing on for his case. Followed by any obstruction related to the meeting and Russia investigation in general. Is the consensus here it was a routine practice and nothing will come of it? Is it possible that Mueller will squeeze Trump and force him to resign by going after his son? Personally, the meeting seems common practice and SOP in politics but the lying and changing stories about it makes it worse. Greg has done a good job outlining what really transpired behind the scenes for the infamous meeting but most of America will never know about that stuff. On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Good morning Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin. What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly? I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first. Best Rob Goldstone On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back? Best, Don On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you? I assume it would be at your office. Best Rob Goldstone On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote: How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up. D Regarding the bolded: Yes. Greg has done yeoman's work on this subject matter. Per Goldstone's admission, he reached out to Don Jr. Not the other way around. So you can solicit something if someone offers you that something? A little dubious methinks. Jr. seemed to have doubts about what was being offered, e.g., if it had anything of value or not. Just who exactly is that Russian attorney anyway and how exactly did she get a visa to get into this country so she could meet with the FBI team prior to the "setup" meeting with Jr.? And her translator? Has the Congress tried to get HIM in for questioning about what was said then too? Or does it not rise to the level of the direct behind-closed-doors Trump-Putin meeting? If this is going to lead (supposedly) to impeachment proceedings, why hasn't that translator been subpoenaed? Color me amazed that Mueller hasn't done that already. Maybe he has and I'm in the dark.
Tiberius Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kelly101 said: how much does soros pay u bots tee hee The funny thing is, the old excuse that the meeting was for adoptions was a lie because they knew it was a criminal act, but then the evidence came out and so they are doing the best they can to just say, well, everyone is doing it! Busted
Deranged Rhino Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Reposting because it got lost on the last page. Note the last sentence. "New" IG report. Must be close. 1
Kelly101 Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: The funny thing is, the old excuse that the meeting was for adoptions was a lie because they knew it was a criminal act, but then the evidence came out and so they are doing the best they can to just say, well, everyone is doing it! Busted tee hee... america hater
Tiberius Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Reposting because it got lost on the last page. Note the last sentence. "New" IG report. Must be close. Rubber and glue! Classic Trump nonsense
Kelly101 Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) its funny this thread is supposed to be about manforts trial but been hijacked by a 8 month old post...i guess the water carriers her are angry because the judge in the manafort case isn't playing lefty ball, so some serious deflection is needed. as if anyone really cares that a couple of lefty water carrying bots keep trying to spread disinformation and hatred of the US on a nfl board, lol. Edited August 6, 2018 by Kelly101
Deranged Rhino Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 Oldie - but goodie. Lots of good information here: (click for full thread) 1
Tiberius Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Reposting because it got lost on the last page. Note the last sentence. "New" IG report. Must be close. So would this make collusion a crime or not? ?
Koko78 Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: She made Putin hate her. I'm on her side there for sure. Well, considering that Putin gave her "charity" millions of dollars, and paid Bubba $500,000 to give a "speech", where do I sign up to be the victim of his "hate"? 1
Deranged Rhino Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: So would this make collusion a crime or not? ?
gatorbait Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nanker said: Regarding the bolded: Yes. Greg has done yeoman's work on this subject matter. Per Goldstone's admission, he reached out to Don Jr. Not the other way around. So you can solicit something if someone offers you that something? A little dubious methinks. Jr. seemed to have doubts about what was being offered, e.g., if it had anything of value or not. Just who exactly is that Russian attorney anyway and how exactly did she get a visa to get into this country so she could meet with the FBI team prior to the "setup" meeting with Jr.? And her translator? Has the Congress tried to get HIM in for questioning about what was said then too? Or does it not rise to the level of the direct behind-closed-doors Trump-Putin meeting? If this is going to lead (supposedly) to impeachment proceedings, why hasn't that translator been subpoenaed? Color me amazed that Mueller hasn't done that already. Maybe he has and I'm in the dark. Solid points. I could be wrong but I don’t think soliciting only pertains to offering or selling something, trying to purchase or obtain something also applies. Why did they lie about the meeting? Seems stupid especially since they never received any info. Mueller wants to interview Trump so he can get him to perjure himself, probably the only chance he has at impeachment. Honestly I don’t mind another 2 or 6 years of Trump if the economy stays afloat, we don’t start any unnecessary wars and the environment doesn’t get too !@#$ed. Everyone is saving their best cards for right before midterms so hopefully we get a resolution to all of this crap before the end of the year.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, gatorbait said: Solid points. I could be wrong but I don’t think soliciting only pertains to offering or selling something, trying to purchase or obtain something also applies. Why did they lie about the meeting? Seems stupid especially since they never received any info. Mueller wants to interview Trump so he can get him to perjure himself, probably the only chance he has at impeachment. Honestly I don’t mind another 2 or 6 years of Trump if the economy stays afloat, we don’t start any unnecessary wars and the environment doesn’t get too !@#$ed. Everyone is saving their best cards for right before midterms so hopefully we get a resolution to all of this crap before the end of the year. Amateur move on their part - which is what you'd expect from that campaign at the time. It's also the "instinct" (for better and worse) when facing such intense (almost uncharted) hostility from the press in those months (remember how heated the rhetoric was back then, way more vitriolic than even now). That's not meant to be an excuse, just an explanation. Trump and his team have stepped on many rakes along the way. Some, I argue are intentional (to draw attention/focus), but others are just self inflicted wounds. 1 1
Nanker Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 Jr. isn't into the politics of this administration. He left it and returned to NYC. And he didn't even get a commission in the Navy. 1
gatorbait Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, Kelly101 said: its funny this thread is supposed to be about manforts trial but been hijacked by a 8 month old post...i guess the water carriers her are angry because the judge in the manafort case isn't playing lefty ball, so some serious deflection is needed. as if anyone really cares that a couple of lefty water carrying bots keep trying to spread disinformation and hatred of the US on a nfl board, lol. Nobody gives a **** about Manafort. He’s going to jail for a few years because of tax evasion/fraud. The convo shifted, and you should pay attention because we are going to hear a lot more about this meeting in the next couple of months.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 6, 2018 Posted August 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, gatorbait said: Nobody gives a **** about Manafort. He’s going to jail for a few years because of tax evasion/fraud. The convo shifted, and you should pay attention because we are going to hear a lot more about this meeting in the next couple of months. Right. So rabbithole one didn't yield a rabbit. Let's try rabbithole two. Ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
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