B-Man Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Jordan SchachtelVerified account @JordanSchachtel 13h13 hours ago Let me get this straight: John Brennan calls President Trump treasonous. The next day, he calls the New York Times and apparently reveals to them that the United States intelligence community has placed "a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin". Unreal... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html
row_33 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 treason meaning " I don't like you" is pretty well destroying the credibility of any word out of Brennan's mouth
plenzmd1 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: treason meaning " I don't like you" is pretty well destroying the credibility of any word out of Brennan's mouth "They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'Treasonous.' I mean, yeah, I guess, why not," "Can we call that treason? Why not," he added. He made the remarks during a speech at a manufacturing plant in Cincinnati, Ohio. Hmm, wonder who said that? Does that mean that credibility of the author of those quotes should also be dismissed?
DC Tom Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why isn't Brennan on the inside of a jail cell? Because it's not illegal to be that stupid.
row_33 Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why isn't Brennan on the inside of a jail cell? he isn't worth the effort to lock him up
Deranged Rhino Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 5 hours ago, TPS said: I wonder how the Onion comes up with this crazy shite? https://politics.theonion.com/mueller-reveals-russia-investigation-just-elaborate-sti-1827696431 Trial balloon, TPS. "Many a true word is spoken in jest" 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Jordan SchachtelVerified account @JordanSchachtel 13h13 hours ago Let me get this straight: John Brennan calls President Trump treasonous. The next day, he calls the New York Times and apparently reveals to them that the United States intelligence community has placed "a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin". Unreal... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html This is the BEST story of the day so far. First, it's OLD news being passed off as new by the NYT. Second, if there really is a highly placed HUMINT source inside the FSB - Brennan got him killed over a year ago by spilling to the NYT. So Mr. Brennan can go !@#$ himself. This comes back into the news the same day as this: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397812-mueller-releases-list-of-more-than-500-pieces-of-evidence-against?amp&__twitter_impression=true Interesting that within that evidence seems to be a whole bunch of correspondence from J. Brennan: Which if that is John Brennan it sure lends credence to the Manafort was a plant/fall guy for Brennan's Russia narrative. Remember Brennan traveled to Russia in MARCH of 2016 - right after Admiral Rogers ordered the NSA audit: https://themoscowtimes.com/news/cia-director-brennan-made-secret-trip-to-moscow-52284 Was Brennan getting raw info on the dossier in March? He claims he didn't include it in the PDB because he was protecting a source - yet he exposed that source to the NYT so that doesn't track. Instead, Brennan was likely keeping this information out of the PDB because 1) it would be evidence he was running a coup and 2) the information was not verified and could never be verified. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Also, this graphic is helpful with regards to how it all worked: 1
IDBillzFan Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Why do we just ignore the very real, very pernicious, illegal spying operation run by the FBI, CIA, State Department, and the Obama White House? Because Trump is a Nazi, everyone who voted for him is a racist, and Kavanaugh puts ketchup on his pasta. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted July 19, 2018 Posted July 19, 2018 Why should we trust this man? Here's Brennan, suggesting intelligence exists, then backing away with the slimy "I won't go into classified information", only to finally relent and admit there is none.
Tiberius Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 The 2018 elections are already being targeted and the Trump administartion is letting it happen. Homeland Insecurity head --traitor--said there was no evidence, so luckily some patriots are showing up. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kevincollier/the-russians-who-hacked-the-dnc-have-targeted-at-least?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Quote The same Russian intelligence agency charged with hacking Democrats’ emails in 2016 has targeted at least three candidates running for election in 2018, a Microsoft executive said. Speaking on a panel at the Aspen Security Forum on Thursday, Tom Burt, Microsoft's vice president for customer security and trust, said that his team had discovered a spear-phishing campaign targeting three candidates running for election in 2018. Analysts traced them to a group Microsoft has nicknamed Strontium, which is closely tracked by every major threat intelligence company and is widely accepted to be run by the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency. Burt declined to name the candidates during the event, citing privacy concerns, and didn’t say which party they belonged to, but implied they were candidates of note and running for reelection. “They were all people who, because of their positions, might have been interesting targets from an espionage standpoint, as well as an election disruption standpoint,” Burt said.
Magox Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 Alright.... A) Mueller indicts 12 Russian operatives for election meddling, knowing that no prosecution will ever take place. Like a show vote. To buy more time for their investigation which continues to lose support by the day. B) The media cheers that they announced it right before the Summit, in their view an attempt to force Trump's hands. C) The conservative media cries foul because they believe that the "Deep state" is sabotaging Trump right before his summit in an attempt to embarrass him. D) The reality is that no such scenario took place, they informed Trump before the summit and the administration OK'd the release. Both sides were wrong. E) The media easily baits Trump with the question of whose side does he believe, Putin or our intelligence agency. F) Trump takes the bait because his ego and narcissism won't allow himself to cede one inch because if he admits there was election meddling then somehow he believes he's delegitimizing his election victory. G) The media becomes hysterical and begins to speculate and theorize with conspiracies that Putin has "something" on Trump. H) "Establishment" Republicans become conflicted because they've always been anti Russia but Trump is extremely popular with the Republican voters and most decide to speak in support of the Intelligence community and show disappointment in Trump. I) Democrats and the Progressive base find their inner Patriotism that had been lost for over a decade and begin to chant U.S.A, U.S.A and now take the mantle from the "Neocons" for being the new proponents of McCarthyism. J) Trump, flips and flops and flips and flops from what his advisers tell him to say to what his ego makes him say. Basically, Trump has made everyone go batschit crazy. A quarter of the Republican base have become pro Russia and the progressive base......well, they don't know what the hell they want aside from identity politics but they are more confused than ever aside from hating Trump. 2
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 It was the same when Nixon and Regan and W won, they can't take losing elections and act like total babies and jerks since the current pendulum is 8 years wax-on wax-off for the parties, this is silly, all the new fake standards they set will be brought right back on them....
B-Man Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American The Hill [DC], by John Solomon Original Article Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the reported FBI lovebirds, are the poster children for the next “Don’t Text and Investigate” public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you. Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges. It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to “stop” Trumpfrom becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments. The Justice Department’s inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question. For any American who wants an answer sooner, there are just five words, among the thousands of suggestive texts Page and Strzok exchanged, that you should read. That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. “There’s no big there there,” Strzok texted. The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign. Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign. This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses. The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was “there.” By the time of the text and Mueller’s appointment, the FBI’s best counterintelligence agents had had plenty of time to dig. They knowingly used a dossier funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign — which contained uncorroborated allegations — to persuade the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to issue a warrant to monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (no relation to Lisa Page). They sat on Carter Page’s phones and emails for nearly six months without getting evidence that would warrant prosecuting him. The evidence they had gathered was deemed so weak that their boss, then-FBI Director James Comey, was forced to admit to Congress after being fired by Trump that the core allegation remained substantially uncorroborated. In other words, they had a big nothing burger. And, based on that empty-calorie dish, Rosenstein authorized the buffet menu of a special prosecutor that has cost America millions of dollars and months of political strife. The work product Strzok created to justify the collusion probe now has been shown to be inferior: A Clinton-hired contractor produced multiple documents accusing Trump of wrongdoing during the election; each was routed to the FBI through a different source or was used to seed news articles with similar allegations that further built an uncorroborated public narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Most troubling, the FBI relied on at least one of those news stories to justify the FISA warrant against Carter Page. That sort of multifaceted allegation machine, which can be traced back to a single source, is known in spy craft as “circular intelligence reporting,” and it’s the sort of bad product that professional spooks are trained to spot and reject. But Team Strzok kept pushing it through the system, causing a major escalation of a probe for which, by his own words, he knew had “no big there there.” The answer as to why a pro such as Strzok would take such action has become clearer, at least to congressional investigators. That clarity comes from the context of the other emails and text messages that surrounded the May 19, 2017, declaration. It turns out that what Strzok and Lisa Page were really doing that day was debating whether they should stay with the FBI and try to rise through the ranks to the level of an assistant director (AD) or join Mueller’s special counsel team. “Who gives a f*ck, one more AD like [redacted] or whoever?” Strzok wrote, weighing the merits of promotion, before apparently suggesting what would be a more attractive role: “An investigation leading to impeachment?” Lisa Page apparently realized the conversation had gone too far and tried to reel it in. “We should stop having this conversation here,” she texted back, adding later it was important to examine “the different realistic outcomes of this case.” A few minutes later Strzok texted his own handicap of the Russia evidence: “You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.” So the FBI agents who helped drive the Russia collusion narrative — as well as Rosenstein’s decision to appoint Mueller — apparently knew all along that the evidence was going to lead to “nothing” and, yet, they proceeded because they thought there was still a possibility of impeachment. Impeachment is a political outcome. The only logical conclusion, then, that congressional investigators can make is that political bias led these agents to press an investigation forward to achieve the political outcome of impeachment, even though their professional training told them it had “no big there there.” And that, by definition, is political bias in action. More at the link:
B-Man Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 Quote Washington ExaminerVerified account @dcexaminer FollowFollow @dcexaminer Robert Mueller offers Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort: Report Corrupt Democrat super lobbyist whose brother ran Hillary’s campaign reportedly gets immunity so Mueller can stick it to Manafort, but the Mueller probe totally isn’t a partisan witch hunt you guys.
Koko78 Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Interesting tactic. He can spin it as "PRAISE BE OBAMA" if they were actually to find something with this mass stupidity, or he can throw Obama under the bus using the old "I was just following Obama's orders" defense if Mueller finds nothing. 1
DC Tom Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, B-Man said: One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American Quote How concerned you are by this conduct is almost certainly affected by your love or hatred for Trump. But put yourself for a second in the hot seat of an investigation by the same FBI cast of characters: You are under investigation for a crime the agents don’t think occurred, but the investigation still advances because the desired outcome is to get you fired from your job. Is that an FBI you can live with? That's pretty much how Nazification worked in Germany in 1932.
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