PPP Is Full of Racism Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Isn't Hannity pretaped? idk but hes talking to EVERYONE and making this into a bigger mess than it should be
DC Tom Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, m_w_hunter said: idk but hes talking to EVERYONE and making this into a bigger mess than it should be Don't I recall him being !@#$ed over by Trump for a cabinet position? What if he's getting even? 1
boyst Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Don't I recall him being !@#$ed over by Trump for a cabinet position? What if he's getting even? He was and there were a few rumors as to why He is better off as an outsider who can viciously and yet thoroughly attack for the agenda of Trump and his party lines. Also, that he was to be kept away from the regime until the swamp is drained and he can either be a new part of it or just join along.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It would go against what he believes as evidenced by his quote below, but he may have to which is his right. “The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said after Hillary Clinton aides invoked their right against self-incrimination. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Fair point. He certainly will be hammered by his enemies for the flip flop, and when you provide a quotable quote you get what you get. Trumps response will be: i was elected on the platform of "draining the swamp" and believe in seeing things through. When i made that comment, i was under the mistaken impression that all the people in charge at the highest levels of our law enforcement agencies were objective, unbiased and ethical. That turned out not to be the case, as the former FBI director applied different standards of justice for different people, made unilateral and unprecedented decisions on who to prosecute and who to let walk free, and established a scheme to leak classified information to the press and been has been less that truthful in the aftermath, going so far as to hire members of his scheme to invoke attorney-client privilege. His successor at the FBI was terminated for unethical and politically motivated behavior, our FISA courts have been abused to allow for unprecedented surveillance of American citizens purely for political gain, leaving a trail of ruined reputationsand tattered reputations in its wake. Special Counsel Mueller has spent millions of dollars and hired the most aggressive attorneys he could--virtually all of whom donated to the Clinton campaign, the candidate who benefited from Comey's manipulation of the law, and the candidate who funded the absurd dossier that started this mess. There is no end in sight. i have stated my position publicly for over a year now, and nothing is going to change. Given the potential for more political manipulation on a series of overly broad and potentially manipulative questions--leaked to the media for political effect---on the advice of counsel I will invoke my right to protect myself. I believe it is well past time for America to move past this ugly time in our history. Hashtag Sad, and God Bless what we all thought was America. " I'm working on getting this under 140 characters as we speak.
keepthefaith Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) Rudy getting out in public is making villains of Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein and other bad actors, and Rudy's pretty good in this role. Mueller and Rosenstein are in a tough spot. They have to keep this thing going for their own credibility, their paychecks, to keep the original cause in motion and to protect a bunch of their cronies. This thing will go on for a long time yet. Comey is a bit of a victim here. He's been less than truthful and deserved to be canned but he got stuck carrying out orders from above regarding both Hillary and Trump and he'll continue to take the fall. Edited May 3, 2018 by keepthefaith
row_33 Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Rudy getting out in public is making villains of Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein and other bad actors, and Rudy's pretty good in this role. Mueller and Rosenstein are in a tough spot. They have to keep this thing going for their own credibility, their paychecks, to keep the original cause in motion and to protect a bunch of their cronies. This thing will go on for a long time yet. at what point is it just plain common sense to relieve Mueller of his duties..... it can't be seen as malicious, but this is going nowhere at all, never had a shred of colour of right from day one.
keepthefaith Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: at what point is it just plain common sense to relieve Mueller of his duties..... it can't be seen as malicious, but this is going nowhere at all, never had a shred of colour of right from day one. The backlash would be huge if Trump does that. The best outcome for him is to be cleared, but it would be understandable if he called Rosenstein and Mueller in and asked them to update him on their findings. If they haven't got squat, fire them both, fire the bad actors in the IC and then issue a couple dozen pardons to all involved (including Hillary and her inner circle) and move the !@#$ on. Edited May 3, 2018 by keepthefaith
row_33 Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: The backlash would be huge if Trump does that. The best outcome for him is to be cleared, but it would be understandable if he called Rosenstein and Mueller in and asked them to update him on their findings. If they haven't got squat, fire them both, fire the bad actors in the IC and then issue a couple dozen pardons to all involved (including Hillary and her inner circle) and move the !@#$ on. backlash from the liberal media would be huge, but boo friggin hoo the voters are sick to death of all of this by now Mueller would never clear Trump 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Isn't Hannity pretaped? It's live from my understanding. 31 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Don't I recall him being !@#$ed over by Trump for a cabinet position? What if he's getting even? Could be It's a he-said-he-said situation. Rudy said Trump offered him AG first, and he declined. Trump's camp said they never offered Rudy a position. 9 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: The backlash would be huge if Trump does that. The best outcome for him is to be cleared, but it would be understandable if he called Rosenstein and Mueller in and asked them to update him on their findings. If they haven't got squat, fire them both, fire the bad actors in the IC and then issue a couple dozen pardons to all involved (including Hillary and her inner circle) and move the !@#$ on. I agree with your first point, but the bolded would be suicide for his base. He could survive if she isn't indicted or charged (which is the most probable outcome) - mainly because he could foist that off on the DOJ and Sessions. But pardoning her or her inner circle would cause half the people who voted for him to ankle imo.
gatorbait Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: backlash from the liberal media would be huge, but boo friggin hoo the voters are sick to death of all of this by now Mueller would never clear Trump Edit: half of the voters are sick of this. The Dems who hate Trump are loving every second of this circus.
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 NBC Report on Cohen Wiretaps Confirms Prior Information – Mueller Investigation Took Over FBI Counterintelligence Operation… https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/03/nbc-report-on-cohen-wiretaps-confirms-prior-information-mueller-investigation-took-over-fbi-counterintelligence-operation/
Tiberius Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 That silly Conservative treehouse. What a joke. 2 hours ago, m_w_hunter said: then rudy needs to shut up about it. hes not helping trump at all President Donald Trump and his aides are “panicking,” the attorney for porn actress Stormy Daniels said Thursday afternoon, and are “just making it up as they go along” as they deal with Trump’s mounting legal challenges. Rudy Giuliani, who joined the president’s legal team last month, disclosed Wednesday that the president had repaid his longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen over the course of last year for a $130,000 payment made to Daniels as part of a nondisclosure agreement related to an alleged sexual affair with Trump. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/03/trump-aides-panicking-michael-avenatti-566674
B-Man Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 ‘You SH*TTING me?’ NBC News, MSNBC issue ‘*HUGE* correction’ to Michael Cohen wiretapping story Quote MSNBCVerified account @MSNBC FollowFollow @MSNBC CORRECTION: Feds have pen-register, not wiretap on Michael Cohen That.s alright......................you got the Narrative out there that the Left wanted. MSNBC just corrected on-air their wiretapping story, now say the government was "monitoring" Cohen's calls.That is... a gigantic difference. Quote *HUGE* correction from NBC - says feds are “monitoring” michael cohen’s calls, not listening to or recording them. 5:07 PM - May 3, 2018 2
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, B-Man said: That is... a gigantic difference. Sure is. Journalists used to get fired for gaffes like this - but when you have the cover of editors, management, and ownership - they give you awards. The 24 hour rule is key in this information war.
Tiberius Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) At least they admit there mistakes and not tell lies like Trump and Hannity Edited May 3, 2018 by Tiberius
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 This wasn't a mistake. It was FUBAR by all journalistic standards... to the point of likely being a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts to drive ratings (at best).
DC Tom Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, B-Man said: ‘You SH*TTING me?’ NBC News, MSNBC issue ‘*HUGE* correction’ to Michael Cohen wiretapping story That.s alright......................you got the Narrative out there that the Left wanted. MSNBC just corrected on-air their wiretapping story, now say the government was "monitoring" Cohen's calls.That is... a gigantic difference. If they were lying to push a narrative, they would have issued the correction tomorrow afternoon when fewer people were paying attention, and given the story an extra day to gain traction. That they didn't indicates they were either about to be disputed by another source, or bullied. And since this entire story was single-sourced to NBC, they had the backing of everyone in the media reinforcing the story. So they weren't going to be disputed by anyone. So clearly, they were bullied...but by who? It could only be the Russian mob, as ordered by Putin at Trump's request. Connect the dots, people! 1
Tiberius Posted May 3, 2018 Posted May 3, 2018 Open corruption! This is a new low. These people really are panicking. Giuliani is calling for Session to step in on the Cohen investigation and to literally prosecute the Prosecutors. This is way too over the top http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/386110-exclusive-giuliani-calls-for-sessions-to-step-in-on-cohen
B-Man Posted May 4, 2018 Posted May 4, 2018 Earlier NBC News issuing a BIG correction to an original story that the feds had wiretapped Trump attorney Michael Cohen: @ComfortablySmug gave NBC News some free spin advice, and that was to seek inspiration from one of their own: Quote Comfortably Smug@ComfortablySmug NBC, just say you were hacked by a time traveler. It worked for Joy Reid. 5:30 PM - May 3, 2018 1
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