Deranged Rhino Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) So what deep state role is Mueller playing then? Stop running and focus on the issues I'm raising with the DNI. The evidence that's been used to build this narrative by the MSM, pundits on the Hill, and multiple posters on this board who have been saying for months that the DNI report is all the evidence they need to know Russia meddled has been proven to have been altered before its release to the public. Not speculated to have been altered, forensically proven to have been altered. That leaves two possibilities: Either the segment of the USIC who compiled the DNI were duped and are very bad at their job (doubtful), or those same officials were the ones who did the alterations in an effort to force a conclusion two weeks before Trump was even sworn in. The men responsible for this are the same men who so badly bungled the WMD question which lead directly to 16 years of endless war - not the same agencies, the same men. Are you seriously just going to brush this evidence off? Have you learned nothing from the past decade and a half? Because so far your silence on this issue, along with many other posters on here who spent months saying I was wrong to point out the DNI was flawed, shows you only care about your partisan politics. And that's shameful. You're willing to overlook being lied to by the USIC, manipulated by the MSM, and lied to by your chosen politicians pushing this narrative because you don't like the GOP. That's not being a patriot. That's cutting your nose off to spite your face and assuring the continued slide of our democratic republic into an authoritarian oligarchy. Edited August 3, 2017 by Deranged Rhino
Tiberius Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 But this is the Mueller thread. What's his role in this conspiracy of yours ?
Deranged Rhino Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 But this is the Mueller thread. What's his role in this conspiracy of yours ? You said if a smoking gun was found, it's all that would matter. The evidence I have linked, not conspiracy, shows this is not true because that is a smoking gun and it's been ignored by you, the MSM, and every other poster on here who lauded the DNI as unassailable proof for seven months. The fact you continue to run from this evidence shows you're not interested in truth. You're interested in political points.
Tiberius Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 You said if a smoking gun was found, it's all that would matter. The evidence I have linked, not conspiracy, shows this is not true because that is a smoking gun and it's been ignored by you, the MSM, and every other poster on here who lauded the DNI as unassailable proof for seven months. The fact you continue to run from this evidence shows you're not interested in truth. You're interested in political points. So what's Mueller doing then?
Benjamin Franklin Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 You said if a smoking gun was found, it's all that would matter. The evidence I have linked, not conspiracy, shows this is not true because that is a smoking gun and it's been ignored by you, the MSM, and every other poster on here who lauded the DNI as unassailable proof for seven months. The fact you continue to run from this evidence shows you're not interested in truth. You're interested in political points. When you're in a small group and you're this certain, and the world won't make eye contact with you, you're (1) Right and destined to Galileo-like fame on PPP (2) Crazy Not nominating you for 1 or 2, but just laying out the choices.
DC Tom Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 When you're in a small group and you're this certain, and the world won't make eye contact with you, you're (1) Right and destined to Galileo-like fame on PPP (2) Crazy Not nominating you for 1 or 2, but just laying out the choices. You forgot 3) Drunk. A little early to be splicing the mainbrace in his locale...but hell, sun's over the yardarm somewhere in the world...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 When you're in a small group and you're this certain, and the world won't make eye contact with you, you're (1) Right and destined to Galileo-like fame on PPP (2) Crazy Not nominating you for 1 or 2, but just laying out the choices. You say all these things without reading the actual post. That's called dishonesty right there.
Chef Jim Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 You forgot 3) Drunk. A little early to be splicing the mainbrace in his locale...but hell, sun's over the yardarm somewhere in the world... Splicing the mainbrace? I like that one. I'll add it to the list.
Benjamin Franklin Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 You forgot 3) Drunk. A little early to be splicing the mainbrace in his locale...but hell, sun's over the yardarm somewhere in the world... jw's option. Fair point. Add it to the list.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 3, 2017 Author Posted August 3, 2017 The WSJ reports that Mueller has impaneled a Grand Jury in the DOJ Russia Probe.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 The WSJ reports that Mueller has impaneled a Grand Jury in the DOJ Russia Probe. try and contain your arousal
K-9 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 No matter how the investigation truly turns out it has already failed. Why? Because when you hire a special investigator for matters such as this where you have a very polarized electorate on a very polarized impactful matter, you have to conduct the investigation with the appearance of impartiality. You have to have the majority of the public's confidence right from the onset. No matter what their true motives are, you've handed the supporters of DJT and skeptics of DC politics on a silver platter that the investigation is a sham. So now matter what the findings will be, unless of course there is an undeniable smoking gun of illegallity the investigation findings won't change the landscape from where we already are. Again, there is nothing to connect Mueller or his team with an inability to be impartial. Nothing at all. Mueller's so- called "friendship" with Comey or whom his team donated money to simply has no impact on evidence gathered or not nor on what it indicates or not. Mueller is in no position to embellish findings or spin things out of whole cloth. I just don't accept as fact that the public's confidence is shattered nor do I believe that Mueller has ulterior motives as you imply. And for all the sympathy Trump may have engendered from followers, the smear campaign by the White House against Mueller has created just as much sympathy, if not more, for Mueller. Especially in Congress. I just heard Jeff Flake say that if Trump moves against Mueller, that Congress will appoint their own Special Prosecutor to take up the investigation for instance. Regardless of the results, there will be a segment of people that will never accept the findings. These are the hot air blowards towards the extreme ends of the spectrum on both sides. And they will never understand the nature of the non-partisan abilities people like Mueller demonstrate.
Chef Jim Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 The WSJ reports that Mueller has impaneled a Grand Jury in the DOJ Russia Probe.
K-9 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 The WSJ reports that Mueller has impaneled a Grand Jury in the DOJ Russia Probe. Let the deal making begin.
row_33 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Let the deal making begin. To bail out the Special Counsel's total waste of time here?
Tiberius Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 The WSJ reports that Mueller has impaneled a Grand Jury in the DOJ Russia Probe. Darn! I don't have a subscription to them. Oh well. Interesting that it's been in place for several weeks. Mueller is running a tight ship with few leaks It also means they are presenting evidence for either getting indictments or subpoenas. Something is happening. Trump's lawyer is named Ty Cobb :/
K-9 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Darn! I don't have a subscription to them. Oh well. Interesting that it's been in place for several weeks. Mueller is running a tight ship with few leaks It also means they are presenting evidence for either getting indictments or subpoenas. Something is happening. Trump's lawyer is named Ty Cobb :/ A grand jury is a powerful investigative tool and yeah, it's indicative that Mueller seeks to subpoena records, testimony under oath, etc. My guess is that the financial trail has given him cause to do so. There are just too many people in Trump's orbit that have, shall I say "misrembembered" certain meetings, etc. It's uncanny how so many people could collectively forget about so many meetings with so many Russians and other foreigners. It's also indicative that it's going to be a much longer process than anticipated. The wheels of justice grind slowly, after all. It's also good for Trump in that if this all results in nothing against him, then he will have the full confidence of the American people behind the findings. That's still an important thing in some quarters I understand.
DC Tom Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 It's also good for Trump in that if this all results in nothing against him, then he will have the full confidence of the American people behind the findings. That's still an important thing in some quarters I understand. :lol: :lol: There's a large segments of idiots in the country who believe convening the grand jury itself is as good as conviction.
Doc Brown Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 What happens when a viscous media and previous administration that hates you for various reasons (birther comments) attacks a completely unprepared presidential administration who can't get their story straight even though there's a 99% chance they didn't collude with Russia? A special prosecutor who has free range to investigate anything in Trump's past. I find the whole thing sad to tell you the truth.
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