Deranged Rhino Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: You're the one that's been following this closer than anybody. The liberal spin on the Flynn guilty plea is he plead guilty to a lesser crime because of his involvement with the Turkish government? Is that a possible explanation? Sorry, missed this earlier... It was a talking point floated but it's got no teeth. Flynn plead guilty to lying on his FARA forms for FIG (Flynn Intel Group) - which is the most serious charge they could bring on him regarding his lobbying work (in other words, they didn't let the Turkey stuff go in exchange for him pleading guilty to lying, they hit him with it too). Lying on your FARA forms is a felony and Flynn agreed to it (I imagine under pressure). But it's the kind of felony that before Mueller charging Manafort were never prosecuted or enforced. You can retroactively file FARAs with corrections, for example, to avoid a felony. I say all that to make clear there aren't bigger Turkey charges lurking in the shadows for Flynn - his shop was not open long enough for that to happen. The reality is FIG was hired in August of '16 by an alleged Turkey proxy (Inovo) to produce several position papers and a documentary film for $500k. The accusation is that Inovo was a cut out, the money came from Turkey directly and Flynn knew it and failed to register that fact until March of '17. Inovo denies this charge, it's never been proven that they are funded by Erdogan, and even if they were taking money directly from Turkey isn't a crime - only lying about it on a FARA is (and it's a felony). FIG never completed the film, never wrote the position papers - the most they did was let Inovo read an op-ed Flynn published in the Hill before it ran (Flynn didn't take edits from them, simply shared it early). There's certainly issues here - but they're not issues that normally get a K-Street lobbyist charged with felonies. Which is why I think Mueller hit Flynn with Turkey even though the consequences for lying to the FBI are far harsher. I think it was included because it was an example of how K-Street lobbyists have been blurring the lines for years and Mueller needed to establish this as part of his probe to go after (imo) his real targets, Manafort and Podesta Group, for the same thing (which he has as we've seen with the Manafort and Gates indictments - though their FARA violations in the Ukraine are FAR more extensive and criminal than Flynn's. Manafort and Podesta knew they were being paid directly by the Ukrainian government and lied about it numerous times). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nanker Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Definitely think they are cooperating. Same with Priestap. That would seem to make sense because those two lovebirds are an integral component of connectivity between the decadent Dems and the bogus FISA persecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snafu Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Is that lying to the FBI? Who doesn't do that these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Did you start the meeting at 2:43pm??? to the best of my recollection that sounds about right.... AHA!!!!! Perjury!!! It started at 2:44pm!!! When you got back the change from your coffee of 92 cents, what was he year of minting on every nickel in the coins? You must answer with specifics, if wrong you have perjeured yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) ....Adam Schiff: Andrew McCabe's firing "may be justified" http://washex.am/2IwFp1 And when you don’t have Adam Schiff… JONATHAN TURLEY: McCabe just made life tough for Comey and the special counsel. . Edited March 19, 2018 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 10 hours ago, B-Man said: ....Adam Schiff: Andrew McCabe's firing "may be justified" http://washex.am/2IwFp1 And when you don’t have Adam Schiff… JONATHAN TURLEY: McCabe just made life tough for Comey and the special counsel. . Again, as koko I believe pointed out. He wasn't asked if he had knowledge of leaks. He was asked if he himself was the leaker; Comey has not perjured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 All statements released are lawyer-vaccuumed and very vague and not addressing the matter directly, as they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 So Trump campaign was making use of Face Book info about users. They had a company that used those analytics to target voters. And Trump wanted all the data from all over the country? Ya, that doesn't smell bad. Facebook Under Fire on Two Continents Over Data Misuse By MATTHEW ROSENBERG and SHEERA FRENKEL 5:17 AM ET American and British lawmakers called on Facebook to explain how a political data firm tied to the Trump campaign harvested private data. One state attorney general said she was opening an investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Again, as koko I believe pointed out. He wasn't asked if he had knowledge of leaks. He was asked if he himself was the leaker; Comey has not perjured. that was only part of it.... Grassley also asked Comey if he had authorized any leaks to which he denied... Either Comey or McCabe perjured themselves.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: He'll be fine. He has a better future ahead of him than the traitors do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: He'll be fine. He has a better future ahead of him than the traitors do You're batting 0-100 so far on this story. Make it 0-101. McCabe will be indicted and prosecuted. Just watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're batting 0-100 so far on this story. Make it 0-101. McCabe will be indicted and prosecuted. Just watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Care to make it interesting? If McCabe gets indicted within the next 12 months, you have to change your screenname for a whole year to something of my choosing. If McCabe doesn't get indicted within the next 12 months, you pick my screenname for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Care to make it interesting? If McCabe gets indicted within the next 12 months, you have to change your screenname for a whole year to something of my choosing. If McCabe doesn't get indicted within the next 12 months, you pick my screenname for a year. Moving the goal posts? Don't we already have a bet about number of Trump people indicted vs. Obama people to be indicted? I'm winning 5-0, right? I won't make the new bet because I have no idea what's in the IG report and I guess no one does but the IG and Sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: Moving the goal posts? Don't we already have a bet about number of Trump people indicted vs. Obama people to be indicted? I'm winning 5-0, right? I won't make the new bet because I have no idea what's in the IG report and I guess no one does but the IG and Sessions. I've been telling you for over a year what's in the IG report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: I've been telling you for over a year what's in the IG report. Ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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