OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh no, lying to investigators is obstruction of justice. He shouldn't have lied. You trust a guy who lied to the FBI, take off the political blinders for a minute at least ...yup the "FBI confessional".......THAT should garner some REAL high marks.....SMH......... 2
billsfan1959 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh no, lying to investigators is obstruction of justice. He shouldn't have lied. You know, if you limited your postings to topics of which you possessed any kind of knowledge at all that could even remotely be passed off as useful, relevant, interesting, etc., it would really be beneficial to everyone. You wouldn't sound completely ignorant as often, and the rest of us wouldn't have to risk the severe deterioration of brain cells reading what you write. You are the internet equivalent of a neurodegenerative disease. 2
Tiberius Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...yup the "FBI confessional".......THAT should garner some REAL high marks.....SMH......... Crazy double standard 7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: You know, if you limited your postings to topics of which you possessed any kind of knowledge at all that could even remotely be passed off as useful, relevant, interesting, etc., it would really be beneficial to everyone. You wouldn't sound completely ignorant as often, and the rest of us wouldn't have to risk the severe deterioration of brain cells reading what you write. You are the internet equivalent of a neurodegenerative disease. Some arguments are just simple. He shouldn't have lied to the FBI.
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Maybe Grenell is in line to take over at the FBI 3
billsfan1959 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Some arguments are just simple. He shouldn't have lied to the The FBI shouldn't be used as an arm of a politically party to fabricate criminal cases against innocent citizens for political purposes. FIFY Edited May 22, 2020 by billsfan1959 1
Tiberius Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: FIFY The investigation was real and serious, Russia interfered in OUR REPUBLIC, that obviously does not bother you. Flynn obstructed the investigation you obviously wished never happened.
billsfan1959 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Maybe Grenell is in line to take over at the FBI A little late there, Christopher Wray..... 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The investigation was real and serious, Russia interfered in OUR REPUBLIC, that obviously does not bother you. Flynn obstructed the investigation you obviously wished never happened. Not nearly as much as your ignorance on these issues
Tiberius Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: A little late there, Christopher Wray..... Not nearly as much as your ignorance on these issues Obviously! It's only the United States of America, after all. “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness” Obedience to the ninth commandment frees us from the fear, insecurity, doubt, torment, and eventual condemnation that are the fruits of deceit. The young man had been on the job little more than a year, and his part-time assignment under one of the most influential supervisors in the organization seemed like a plum. It might, he hoped, develop into a challenging, satisfying full-time assignment. And then one day as they met with their manager, the young man’s trust in his supervisor vanished. The manager asked the young man hard, critical questions about a report the young man had prepared, and the supervisor, who had reviewed the report and changed the section in question, sat silently, offering no help. “But I handled all this in what I wrote originally,” the young man said, turning to his supervisor. The supervisor answered: “I don’t remember reading anything about it.” The young man was certain of what he had written. Later in the day, after the supervisor had left, the young man went to the file where everyone in the department filed carbon copies of their reports. All of the carbon copies were in place, in proper order, except the one in question. It had disappeared. After that day, the young man was careful to keep a second copy of everything he wrote. He cooperated with his supervisor as the job required, but when an opportunity came for a less prestigious assignment under a supervisor he knew to be honest, the young man took it. His life had been affected by someone who had borne false witness. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” (Ex. 20:16) is the ninth of the ten commandments given to Moses for the governing and blessing of the children of Israel. But its place on the list does not mean it is less consequential than other commandments. Peace, happiness, security, trust, and tranquility are in jeopardy when this commandment is ignored. The danger may be as obvious as the punishment of an individual for crimes he did not commit. It may be as subtle as the teaching of our children, by negative example, that shading the truth just a bit is acceptable so long as there is no chance of getting caught. In any case, bearing false witness—of which lying is just one aspect—erodes the souls of individuals and snips away at the cords of common trust that must bind any society together if it is to survive. Edited May 22, 2020 by Tiberius
billsfan1959 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Obviously! It's only the United States of America, after all. “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness” I agree 100% - Obama, Rice, Comey, Strzok, et. al., should not have lied about what they did to General Flynn. That is not what this country stands for 1
3rdnlng Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Obviously! It's only the United States of America, after all. “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness” Obedience to the ninth commandment frees us from the fear, insecurity, doubt, torment, and eventual condemnation that are the fruits of deceit. The young man had been on the job little more than a year, and his part-time assignment under one of the most influential supervisors in the organization seemed like a plum. It might, he hoped, develop into a challenging, satisfying full-time assignment. And then one day as they met with their manager, the young man’s trust in his supervisor vanished. The manager asked the young man hard, critical questions about a report the young man had prepared, and the supervisor, who had reviewed the report and changed the section in question, sat silently, offering no help. “But I handled all this in what I wrote originally,” the young man said, turning to his supervisor. The supervisor answered: “I don’t remember reading anything about it.” The young man was certain of what he had written. Later in the day, after the supervisor had left, the young man went to the file where everyone in the department filed carbon copies of their reports. All of the carbon copies were in place, in proper order, except the one in question. It had disappeared. After that day, the young man was careful to keep a second copy of everything he wrote. He cooperated with his supervisor as the job required, but when an opportunity came for a less prestigious assignment under a supervisor he knew to be honest, the young man took it. His life had been affected by someone who had borne false witness. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” (Ex. 20:16) is the ninth of the ten commandments given to Moses for the governing and blessing of the children of Israel. But its place on the list does not mean it is less consequential than other commandments. Peace, happiness, security, trust, and tranquility are in jeopardy when this commandment is ignored. The danger may be as obvious as the punishment of an individual for crimes he did not commit. It may be as subtle as the teaching of our children, by negative example, that shading the truth just a bit is acceptable so long as there is no chance of getting caught. In any case, bearing false witness—of which lying is just one aspect—erodes the souls of individuals and snips away at the cords of common trust that must bind any society together if it is to survive. Link? 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: So nice of Wray to exclude former employees from the investigation.... 2
Deranged Rhino Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: So nice of Wray to exclude former employees from the investigation.... I hope -- and that's all I'm going off of with Wray these days -- that's intentional due to "ongoing criminal investigations". 3
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I hope -- and that's all I'm going off of with Wray these days -- that's intentional due to "ongoing criminal investigations". Ditto. Either that or Grenell is next in line. ? 1 1
billsfan1959 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: I hope -- and that's all I'm going off of with Wray these days -- that's intentional due to "ongoing criminal investigations". I'm hoping right along with you. I am not a Wray fan as I feel he is cut from the same cloth as the people who were responsible for how far the Bureau has fallen. However, I am willing to wait and see.... 1
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: The investigation was real and serious, Russia interfered in OUR REPUBLIC, that obviously does not bother you. Flynn obstructed the investigation you obviously wished never happened. Did I miss something? Now you believe the FBI wanted to talk to Flynn about his part in the Russian interference in our ‘republic’? 1
njbuff Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Well if the fvckin morons who keep saying Flynn lied should know this.......... Well if Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Yates, etc. didn’t have to LIE in the first place, Flynn wouldn’t have had to turn around and lie to save his son’s ass. They cornered the man with their lies, but why let facts get in the way of #orangemanbad. Hypocrisy is strong with the Trump-hating folks. 2
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