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Tolbert is a running back not a fullback

Nah he is a full back who is a decent ball carrier. Other than last year in Carolina when he started at running back a couple of times he has lined up at full back his whole career and the Bills official roster page lists him as a FB.

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Time for a refresh...... Players are categorised as below:

 

 

BLACK = Certain to be on the roster if healthy

BLUE = Likely to be on the roster if healthy

RED = Fighting for a roster spot

 

Quarterback

Tyrod Taylor

Nathan Peterman

TJ Yates

 

Fullback

Patrick DiMarco

Mike Tolbert

 

Running Back

LeSean McCoy

Jonathan Williams

Cedric O'Neal

Joe Banyard

Jordan Johnson

 

Wide Receiver

Sammy Watkins

Zay Jones

Andre Holmes

Corey Brown

Jeremy Butler

Walt Powell

Brandon Tate

Rod Streater

Dez Lewis

Daikiel Shorts

Rashad Ross

 

Tight End

Charles Clay

Nick O’Leary

Logan Thomas

Jason Croom

 

Offensive Line

Cordy Glenn

Richie Incognito

Eric Wood

John Miller

Ryan Groy

Dion Dawkins

Jordan Mills

Vlad Ducasse

Seantrel Henderson

Michael Ola

 

 

Defensive Line

Marcell Dareus

Kyle Williams

Shaq Lawson

Jerry Hughes

Jerel Worthy

Ryan Davis

Adolphus Washington

Eddie Yarbrough

Max Valles

Marquavius Lewis

Jake Metz

Ian Seau

Deandre Coleman

 

Linebacker

Reggie Ragland

Preston Brown

Lorenzo Alexander

Ramon Humber

Gerald Hodges

Matt Milano

Tanner Vallejo

Carl Bradford

Sam Barrington

 

Corner

Tre'Davious White

Ron Darby

Kevon Seymour

Leonard Johnson

Shareece Wright

Charles James

Bradley Sylve

 

Safety

Micah Hyde

Jordan Poyer

Colt Anderson

Baccari Rambo

Trae Elston

Shamiel Gary

 

Specialists

Steven Hauschka

Reid Ferguson

Colton Schmidt

Austin Rehkow

 

 

The conclusion from that is I have 43 likely or very likely. That leaves 10 spots. Obviously one of those goes to either Schmidt or Rehkow as a punter. So there are 9 spots that I think are realistically up for grabs. You would expect that at least 2 of those go to Tight Ends (2 from O'Leary, Thomas and Croom) and I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility given Dennison's offense that they keep all 3. Then at least 2 more are needed on the defensive line. I have moved Adolphus down to red because I think given his off the field situation he now needs to keep his nose clean and produce in pre-season to be sure of his spot, but if he likely takes one there is probably 1 more defensive line spot (likely for an outside guy) to shoot for. 2 tight ends and 2 DL leaves you looking for 5 needing at least 1 more corner and 1 more receiver. That would probably then leave 3 spots where it comes down to where they want the extra depth and also what they see their Special Teams position as being. Streater, Tate and Powell would all come into that consideration as might Charles James. The extra tight end could be the wildcard.... or maybe the extra lineman if they like where Seantrel is?

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great update. There are going to be a couple of tough cuts on that list. I want all 4 of those TE's, but I don't see it happening. Maybe Croom to PS? I think Streater makes roster and maybe Shorts to PS? I really like Walt Powell but he always seems like odd man out.

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If Henderson can stay healthy , after his suspension would keep him over Mills so far. If he promises no more weed

 

I'm rooting for D. Shorts at WR also.

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Not bad Gunner!! I'd make a few changes in that I'd bump Washington to likely. He's gotten the 1st team reps with Dareus out and offers some versatility despite the waterpark incident. I'd bump O'Leary to likely as well. I'd lower Hodges to fighting for a spot and Ducasse. Ducasse has been given an opportunity to this point but may not end up on the roster. Hodges can't seem to bump up the roster (like Ragland). I'd move Milano to red and he may be a PS candidate. It's possible that they only keep 1 of the 2 drafted LBs. Tolbert seems like a lock to me as well. I've been clear on my position on Yates too. He's a red for me. If he isn't the #2 he isn't making the team IMO. He's the number 2 still but that may change.

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Not bad Gunner!! I'd make a few changes in that I'd bump Washington to likely. He's gotten the 1st team reps with Dareus out and offers some versatility despite the waterpark incident. I'd bump O'Leary to likely as well. I'd lower Hodges to fighting for a spot and Ducasse. Ducasse has been given an opportunity to this point but may not end up on the roster. Hodges can't seem to bump up the roster (like Ragland). I'd move Milano to red and he may be a PS candidate. It's possible that they only keep 1 of the 2 drafted LBs. Tolbert seems like a lock to me as well. I've been clear on my position on Yates too. He's a red for me. If he isn't the #2 he isn't making the team IMO. He's the number 2 still but that may change.

 

I don't really want Ducasse there but from what I hear, and the Cover 1 guys touched on this, Groy has been lining up exclusively at centre. That suggests to me there is a spot for a backup guard and unless Ducasse blows in pre-season games his relationship with Castillo makes him a likely. I also from a number of sources hear good things about Milano.... interested why you think he doesn't make it? Apparently he has been on the Special Teams number 1 unit for the most part as well. Tolbert I did consider as a lock. You might be right there.... he is very close to lock territory if not quite in it.

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I don't really want Ducasse there but from what I hear, and the Cover 1 guys touched on this, Groy has been lining up exclusively at centre. That suggests to me there is a spot for a backup guard and unless Ducasse blows in pre-season games his relationship with Castillo makes him a likely. I also from a number of sources hear good things about Milano.... interested why you think he doesn't make it? Apparently he has been on the Special Teams number 1 unit for the most part as well. Tolbert I did consider as a lock. You might be right there.... he is very close to lock territory if not quite in it.

In terms of Milano, if they keep Alexander, Brown, Ragland, Humber, Hodges and Vallejo I'm just not sure how many LBs they will keep? Especially when they are stressing versatility and playing a 4-3. He feels like a potential PS guy. It's possible though that he almost functions as a hybrid type and maybe that leaves one less safety.

 

In terms of Ducasse I think that Mudge has a chance to grab that spot. He seems to have had a nice camp so far. I think Ducasse has a chance to land on the roster I just wouldn't put him quite to likely yet.

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My instinct is Milano would be ahead of Vallejo... higher draft pick both have rotated in with the 2nds so far, both are good teams players. I think both make it I really do. Brown's in a contract year, Hodges is a 1 year deal as is Humber, Alexander is an old man..... I suspect McDermott and Beane are thinking about depth longer term in the linebacker group and they can both play teams so it is not like you are keeping spare parts. I'd be surprised if either misses out.

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My instinct is Milano would be ahead of Vallejo... higher draft pick both have rotated in with the 2nds so far, both are good teams players. I think both make it I really do. Brown's in a contract year, Hodges is a 1 year deal as is Humber, Alexander is an old man..... I suspect McDermott and Beane are thinking about depth longer term in the linebacker group and they can both play teams so it is not like you are keeping spare parts. I'd be surprised if either misses out.

Vallejo has rotated with the ones (and is starting there today).

 

I certainly think that Milano has a decent chance. It's just a matter of if they keep 7 LBs. Worst case, he's a PS guy. It's possible that someone like Hodges is out too if they keep 6. They probably keep 8 DL. That's 15 guys in the front 7. Maybe that's the right number. It just feels like a lot.

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concerning milano, i know he had a pick in camp, but otherwise, how has he looked? i honestly thought they may try to keep him on as a S in some capacity.

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If Henderson can stay healthy , after his suspension would keep him over Mills so far. If he promises no more weed

 

I'm rooting for D. Shorts at WR also.

I'm expecting Henderson to be cut this preseason and replaced with Cameron Jefferson whose been in camp with Dennison the last two years in Denver and even spent some time on their practice squad.
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I'm expecting Henderson to be cut this preseason and replaced with Cameron Jefferson whose been in camp with Dennison the last two years in Denver and even spent some time on their practice squad.

 

This seems very unlikely with the current reps each player is getting in camp thus far. Henderson gets 1st team reps at LT when Glenn isn't in and and 2nd team reps at LT other than that.

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Henderson is an intriguing guy because of his athleticism. Obviously there are a lot of questions and concerns with him but he can play some. I'm not surprised to see a new staff liking him.

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This seems very unlikely with the current reps each player is getting in camp thus far. Henderson gets 1st team reps at LT when Glenn isn't in and and 2nd team reps at LT other than that.

 

Although I think that is partly because they want to give Dawkins a clear run in camp at RT. I suspect if Glenn went down Dawkins would switch instantly to LT. I might be wrong though... we know Henderson has talent when healthy and focused.

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Thanks for putting this thread together. It should definitely be stickied. At this time of year it's the only thread that really matters.

 

I'm always intrigued by the long list of red players...many of which I've never heard of, and most of which have no shot at making the final roster.

 

With that said, does anyone really think that Adolphus Washington should be in red? Hard to imagine that the Bills are throwing him to wayside already.

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Changes I would make:

Change players such as "Seantrel Henderson" to gray since their status does not need to be determined until after they have served their suspension. You are predicting week 1, correct?

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Changes I would make:

 

Corey Brown to red

Brandon Tate to blue

Nick O'Leary to blue

Adolphus Washington to blue

Bacarri Rambo to red

Can see the logic in those. I certainly think O'Leary has the inside track on the #2 TE job because he can block.

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I'm expecting Henderson to be cut this preseason and replaced with Cameron Jefferson whose been in camp with Dennison the last two years in Denver and even spent some time on their practice squad.

Hendy will not count against the roster I thought ?

 

Although I think that is partly because they want to give Dawkins a clear run in camp at RT. I suspect if Glenn went down Dawkins would switch instantly to LT. I might be wrong though... we know Henderson has talent when healthy and focused.

I see the same

I am hoping we are able to send and keep some of the kids to PS. and pull up if injury occurs.

See a couple opportunities. Shorts Milano Mudge Sylve Croom JJ for starters.

O'leary is #2

I hope Ducasse is seen as expendable

Washington would be a surprise not to remain.

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