Heavy Kevi Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 don't listen to other fans... think for yourself. It's a major change in management of the team. Nobody knows what will happen, but offseasons are for optimism. Good point. Also, as opposed to "every year", this is the most sweeping change in 2 decades or more. Moreover, the hires are smart, hard working, detail oriented, and articulate.... And actually, really on the same page. OneBuffalo, if you will. We have not had that combo in a long long time, and it's the best road to continued success. Anyone can catch lightning in a bottle for a year or two, but it takes control freak, multitasking, and attention to detail to sustain it. If only Rex could focus on the details he would have been much better, but clock management and penalties were details he couldn't seem to master.
stinky finger Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I've been coming here sporadically and posts like this are the reason why. I understand 17 years sucks and Pegula's attempt to make a splash with the Ryan circus was an unmitigated disaster. But reading stuff like this makes my blood pressure rise. This offseason feels different. Every hire we have made is respected across the league and I will defer to the people in the know before buying into the (admittedly warranted) cynicism on this board. The Bills are making sound decisions. Finally. Time will tell if it equates to wins and playoffs, but I have to say this is the most optimistic I have been in over a decade. Just my Two Cents. yessir
BillsFan4 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 A little more on Joe(l) http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/press-releases/article-1/PRESS-RELEASE-Dolphins-Name-Joe-Schoen-Director-of-Player-Personnel/3bf5c07e-8dfd-4d21-a343-887a9d812e8b http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/04/miami-dolphins-scouting-department-gets-a-big-endorsement.html Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
BuffAlone Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 You need to look towards the future and stop bringing up the past. Its pointless.Amen
PromoTheRobot Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Or....championship? For some that would be considered DOOOOOOOMED.
Bateman56 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Joe Schoen and Brandon Beane worked together for 7 seasons in Carolina. Schoen has extensive background in the scouting department and is someone Beane trusts to be his right hand man. Nobody knows if their vision will be successful here in Buffalo, but considering that McDermott, Beane, and Schoen are all coming from successful franchises there is reason to be optimistic. At the very least, it finally seems like our front office and coaching staff will be on the same page moving forward. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/5/14/15637530/buffalo-bills-hire-joe-schoen-assistant-general-manager-brandon-beane
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Joe Schoen and Brandon Beane worked together for 7 seasons in Carolina. Schoen has extensive background in the scouting department and is someone Beane trusts to be his right hand man. Nobody knows if their vision will be successful here in Buffalo, but considering that McDermott, Beane, and Schoen are all coming from successful franchises there is reason to be optimistic. At the very least, it finally seems like our front office and coaching staff will be on the same page moving forward. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/5/14/15637530/buffalo-bills-hire-joe-schoen-assistant-general-manager-brandon-beane ...young gun football minds going to run a football organization versus the "patchwork debacle" post Polian.....what the hell is there NOT to like?......
Cripple Creek Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 A little more on Joe(l) http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/press-releases/article-1/PRESS-RELEASE-Dolphins-Name-Joe-Schoen-Director-of-Player-Personnel/3bf5c07e-8dfd-4d21-a343-887a9d812e8b http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/04/miami-dolphins-scouting-department-gets-a-big-endorsement.html The things we hear about all 3, HC, GM, AGM...tireless workers, attention to detail... Those are two things people have never said about Rex Ryan and Doug Whaley?
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Joe Schoen and Brandon Beane worked together for 7 seasons in Carolina. Schoen has extensive background in the scouting department and is someone Beane trusts to be his right hand man. Nobody knows if their vision will be successful here in Buffalo, but considering that McDermott, Beane, and Schoen are all coming from successful franchises there is reason to be optimistic. At the very least, it finally seems like our front office and coaching staff will be on the same page moving forward. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/5/14/15637530/buffalo-bills-hire-joe-schoen-assistant-general-manager-brandon-beaneSo Beane's area of least experience, scouting, he hired an assistant GM who's strength is scouting, and they share a vision of team building. I like that a lot.
John from Riverside Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Go look at their schedule and who they played. Miami was a fraud The day that the Asst GM actually puts on a helmet and plays a game I will evaluate them for wins and losses on the field. Their job is to bring in talent.....looks like this guy started at the bottom and worked their way to the top like he should have and filled all the boxes.
Heitz Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 ...young gun football minds going to run a football organization versus the "patchwork debacle" post Polian.....what the hell is there NOT to like?...... Agree 100% - funny that so many people have been asking for this for so long and now that we have it, there are still people that don't like the moves Obviously we'll see what they do over they years, but I applaud the direction... The things we hear about all 3, HC, GM, AGM...tireless workers, attention to detail... Those are two things people have never said about Rex Ryan and Doug Whaley? For sure. Interesting that all three started out as interns too, learning the business from the ground up. We've had a lot of success with interns brought up through our system where I work... That said, I'm actaully a little surprised that no one has said "We hired three INTERNS to lead this team? What a joke!"
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) The things we hear about all 3, HC, GM, AGM...tireless workers, attention to detail... Those are two things people have never said about Rex Ryan and Doug Whaley? lots of accounts of Rex not being a hard worker. Not a lot (at least publically) of Whaley... but I mentioned awhile back that a poster here PMed me at the end of the season and said he knew someone in the Clemson program who talked to Sammy and Shaq. They said they were tired of management and that Whaley would play on his phone during important meetings. They were surprised this guy was the GM of their team. And there was an account of bills scouts showing up to pro days unprepared. I am around OSU a lot and haven't seen any Bills scouts unprepared, they come to practice. They don't stand out as doing anything differently than the other scouts. But I'm guessing there aren't as buttoned up as McD would have them. Edited May 14, 2017 by YoloinOhio
Cripple Creek Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 ...young gun football minds going to run a football organization versus the "patchwork debacle" post Polian.....what the hell is there NOT to like?...... Yeah. Still have to prove it, but...I like what I see and hear.
Bateman56 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 So Beane's area of least experience, scouting, he hired an assistant GM who's strength is scouting, and they share a vision of team building. I like that a lot.
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Dolphins stink worse than us Yes, the team that swept the Bills is worse than the Bills.
Cripple Creek Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 lots of accounts of Rex not being a hard worker. Not a lot (at least publically) of Whaley... but I mentioned awhile back that a poster here PMed me at the end of the season and said he knew someone in the Clemson program who talked to Sammy and Shaq. They said they were tired of management and that Whaley would play on his phone during important meetings. They were surprised this guy was the GM of their team. And there was an account of bills scouts showing up to pro days unprepared. I am around OSU a lot and haven't seen any Bills scouts unprepared, they come to practice. They don't stand out as doing anything differently than the other scouts. But I'm guessing there aren't as buttoned up as McD would have them. TP has been so persistent in mentioning the work ethic of Mc and Beane...there is definitely something there. Then there was the article about how Whaley stayed after the league meetings to spend time with family while other GMs were out at pro days/private workouts. I hate to begrudge a guy some time with his family, but, if you've got a job to do...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Yes, the team that swept the Bills is worse than the Bills.Did you actually watch the games?
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Was he the same same Director of Pro Personel? If so, not impressed. Dolphins seem to follow the "I've heard of him!" philosophy of signing FAs. In that case, he was probably disappointed with his own hiring.
Bateman56 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Exactly. They should make a good duo and now people who were concerned about Beane's lack of scouting experience can take solace in the fact they hired an assistant GM with about 16 years of pro scouting experience. Since Schoen and Beane worked together in Carolina, they should be on same page on what kind of team they want to build.
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