JohnBonhamRocks Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Not opposed to stealing from within the division at least.
Bangarang Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I just heard about this guy yesterday. I'm outraged because reasons.
klos63 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 It's hard for some fans, myself included. We've heard "this offseason is different" from different posters throughout the years, and when you hear it again, you go in defense mode. don't listen to other fans... think for yourself. It's a major change in management of the team. Nobody knows what will happen, but offseasons are for optimism.
LabattBlue Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I'm just happy to see more football minds being hired. An AGM or even two AGM's are better than none....assuming they are quality hires.
JPnotLosman Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I've been coming here sporadically and posts like this are the reason why. I understand 17 years sucks and Pegula's attempt to make a splash with the Ryan circus was an unmitigated disaster. But reading stuff like this makes my blood pressure rise. This offseason feels different. Every hire we have made is respected across the league and I will defer to the people in the know before buying into the (admittedly warranted) cynicism on this board. The Bills are making sound decisions. Finally. Time will tell if it equates to wins and playoffs, but I have to say this is the most optimistic I have been in over a decade. Just my Two Cents. Great post. I agree, I think the Bills' decisions this offseason have been intelligent, aside from the failure to retain Gillislee, which goes back to not placing a higher tender. But great offseason nonetheless and I think we'll see a few more signings to get us excited about before the season starts. (ex. Milloy) By the way, this is my 1st post. I've been following this forum for Bills news since BBMB was shut down (wish I knew about this forum before). The negatively for every single decision, even Assistant GM, is ridiculous. Cheer up my friends, it's almost summer time.
3rdand12 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Big wheels keep on turnin' Proud Mary I am cool with the Pickup. This will accelerate the development of the Scouting staff. Good move Beaner !
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Another bright, young, mind in the mix. This team is finally moving in the right direction. All for the continuing youth movement too.
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 @salsports HC Sean McDermott - 43 GM Brandon Beane - 40 Ast. GM Joe Schoen - 37 These aren't your dad's Bills anymore. Or Ralph's.
hondo in seattle Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Eh, outside of this past year, I can't say I'm a big fan of Miami's scouting department. They went after names, not talent. Schoen wasn't the entire Miami scouting department. The scouting department is a team of its own. Saying you don't like the Miami scouting department is like saying you don't like the New Orleans Saints. Therefore we shouldn't sign any players from the Saints? Personally, I'd sign Brees in a heartbeat if he wanted to come to Buffalo. Like any team, the Miami scouting department has more-talented guys and less-talented guys. Apparently, Beane has identified Schoen as one of the more talented guys. Unless you have good insider information, I don't know why you'd want to second-guess him. Except that we're Bills fans and second-guess everything.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) I'm just happy to see more football minds being hired. An AGM or even two AGM's are better than none....assuming they are quality hires. ....a long, LONG time coming, since the Polian era....Donohoe was obsessed with being named PRESIDENT to fuel his total control ego and then hired cheap subordinating HC's who caved at his demand...set this club back a decade....Marv and Buddy were football people, but respectfully beyond their prime.....Brandon was put in positions not qualified for...and we recycled coaches who were stale dated....hence, the "Patchwork Era of Futility"....sure not one down has been played yet, but the "Young Guns-Young Minds-Coaching Staff" sure as hell brings some optimism to OBD FINALLY getting it right after BP...stay tuned................ Edited May 14, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
Bronc24 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Great post. I agree, I think the Bills' decisions this offseason have been intelligent, aside from the failure to retain Gillislee, which goes back to not placing a higher tender. But great offseason nonetheless and I think we'll see a few more signings to get us excited about before the season starts. (ex. Milloy) By the way, this is my 1st post. I've been following this forum for Bills news since BBMB was shut down (wish I knew about this forum before). The negatively for every single decision, even Assistant GM, is ridiculous. Cheer up my friends, it's almost summer time. Amen. And great first post.
BillsFan4 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I can't really say I know enough about Schoen to say much of anything one way or another. All I know is the little I've read since I seen we were interested in him yesterday. But from what I've read, he seems to be considered a very hard working up and comer with a bright future, and a pretty good eye for talent. One other thing I do like - he has a lot of detailed knowledge of the inner workings of one of our division rivals. That's never a bad thing! @salsports HC Sean McDermott - 43 GM Brandon Beane - 40 Ast. GM Joe Schoen - 37 These aren't your dad's Bills anymore. Or Ralph's. You can say that again... I like that we aren't running Ralph's old boy's club anymore, though. This franchise needs a new way of thinking desperately. Maybe these young guys will help set some new trends in the NFL, instead of just trying to follow the old ones. I could see this being a progressive, forward thinking front office. The NFL seems to rapidly be getting younger with some of the hires this offseason. Hopefully it will work out and we will be ahead of the curve for once...
Bill_with_it Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 @salsports HC Sean McDermott - 43 GM Brandon Beane - 40 Ast. GM Joe Schoen - 37 These aren't your dad's Bills anymore. Or Ralph's. Good. They dont seem to be the Bills of a lot of fans on here either. Quite scary. Im reqlly enjoying the youth movement now. Hopefully they arent as cavalier with contracts, money, and draft picks as the last regime.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 @salsports HC Sean McDermott - 43 GM Brandon Beane - 40 Ast. GM Joe Schoen - 37 These aren't your dad's Bills anymore. Or Ralph's. ....and probably don't drive Grandpa's Buicks either.................company Porsche 911's works fine................
nucci Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 If the Bills hung onto two leads, we would have been the WC, not them. but we didn't I can't really say I know enough about Schoen to say much of anything one way or another. All I know is the little I've read since I seen we were interested in him yesterday. But from what I've read, he seems to be considered a very hard working up and comer with a bright future, and a pretty good eye for talent. One other thing I do like - he has a lot of detailed knowledge of the inner workings of one of our division rivals. That's never a bad thing! You can say that again... I like that we aren't running Ralph's old boy's club anymore, though. This franchise needs a new way of thinking desperately. Maybe these young guys will help set some new trends in the NFL, instead of just trying to follow the old ones. I could see this being a progressive, forward thinking front office. The NFL seems to rapidly be getting younger with some of the hires this offseason. Hopefully it will work out and we will be ahead of the curve for once... or maybe the Bills are finally catching up to the rest of the league
ndirish1978 Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 Complainers here are ridiculous. TBD whiners - "We know very little about what Beane actually did as a scout but we've decided to be upset because he wasn't PRIMARILY a scout." OBD- "We've hired a lifelong scout, who is well-respected and knows the division intimately, as Assistant GM." TBD whiners - "What were they thinking?!" For everyone complaining Monos is gone- here's your veteran scout. Much like Beane, we really have no idea how well the hire will pan out because, as subordinates, we don't know how much their input has made a difference in their prior team's FO decisions. What we do know is for the first time in a while we are getting a top to bottom reset and so far all of the people hired have strong work histories and reputations for being hard workers. Can we please stop ignorantly complaining just as a default? Groucho Marx once famously joked that he "would never join any organization that would accept him as a member." It seems like half the people here take that to heart: "he can't be any good because he's here now."
WotAGuy Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 @salsports HC Sean McDermott - 43 GM Brandon Beane - 40 Ast. GM Joe Schoen - 37 These aren't your dad's Bills anymore. Or Ralph's. McGrandpaw
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 I've been coming here sporadically and posts like this are the reason why. I understand 17 years sucks and Pegula's attempt to make a splash with the Ryan circus was an unmitigated disaster. But reading stuff like this makes my blood pressure rise. This offseason feels different. Every hire we have made is respected across the league and I will defer to the people in the know before buying into the (admittedly warranted) cynicism on this board. The Bills are making sound decisions. Finally. Time will tell if it equates to wins and playoffs, but I have to say this is the most optimistic I have been in over a decade. Just my Two Cents. I agree w u 100%!
stinky finger Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 A little more on Joe(l) http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/press-releases/article-1/PRESS-RELEASE-Dolphins-Name-Joe-Schoen-Director-of-Player-Personnel/3bf5c07e-8dfd-4d21-a343-887a9d812e8b http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/04/miami-dolphins-scouting-department-gets-a-big-endorsement.html I wish to totally disregard this. too many well informed "football guys" who posted in this thread previously have me believing otherwise.
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