Direhard Fan Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 Three biggest reasons familys fight. Money- family- family that want money! Sammy should know better. 100k or not. Brother is a dead beat and needs to suck it up and be responsible for his own actions.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices. Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless. I totally don't understand your logic. First of all, it was Sammy, not his brother, who failed to appear. And the reason they wanted Sammy to appear was complete BS, asking him to prove a multi-millionaire NFL player could afford his brother's bail ticket. As for character, it sounds like you are blaming Sammy for having a gangbanger brother, like he has a choice in the matter.
Bill from NYC Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 I totally don't understand your logic. First of all, it was Sammy, not his brother, who failed to appear. And the reason they wanted Sammy to appear was complete BS, asking him to prove a multi-millionaire NFL player could afford his brother's bail ticket. As for character, it sounds like you are blaming Sammy for having a gangbanger brother, like he has a choice in the matter.I totally don't understand your logic. Are you concerned or angered that the gang banger is still sitting in jail? If so, why?
Simon Says Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 OMG, did you guys actually read the story? he DOES have to show up and testify about where the money comes from, If the judge says so. Nobody made Sammy pay the bail, he chose to do it
H2o Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 If his brother is that stupid he shouldn't have paid his bail !! That's how a lot of NFL & other sports stars lose millions by the leaches that say they are family when all's they care about is getting some of the cash in what ever form for their own benefit ... Beware Sammy !! See Michael Vick's brother Marcus
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row_33 Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 OMG, did you guys actually read the story? he DOES have to show up and testify about where the money comes from, If the judge says so. Nobody made Sammy pay the bail, he chose to do it "I'm surprised we don't have Mr. Watkins here. You would think it was clear last time he should've been here," [Justice] Kyle said. That's shows something has gone down the pipeline of importance...
boyst Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 I totally don't understand your logic. First of all, it was Sammy, not his brother, who failed to appear. And the reason they wanted Sammy to appear was complete BS, asking him to prove a multi-millionaire NFL player could afford his brother's bail ticket. As for character, it sounds like you are blaming Sammy for having a gangbanger brother, like he has a choice in the matter. who it was is irrelevant. Being Sammy worth billions Watkins doesn't matter either. Does he have the cash? Does he have it all leveraged? The court has a right to make that request. I totally don't understand your logic. Are you concerned or angered that the gang banger is still sitting in jail? If so, why?in this day and age due process is just not Constitutional evidently.
row_33 Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 who it was is irrelevant. Being Sammy worth billions Watkins doesn't matter either. Does he have the cash? Does he have it all leveraged? The court has a right to make that request. in this day and age due process is just not Constitutional evidently. Grateful we have a self-declared Constitution expert to decide on matters based on a wispy article.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 So what? He is making it harder for a gangster to be sprung from jail. Does this really bother you? Shouldn't it bother you too? The law should be the law for everyone. If you open the door for variable legal requirements when you think the people involved are "bad hombres" or what have you (does "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell?), you open the door for variable legal requirements when it's in the perceived interest of the government. And that is the path of authoritarianism at best, not democracy. A Man for All Seasons (1960) Robert Bolt (play about Sir Thomas More)Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law! More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil? Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that! More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you — where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast — man's laws, not God's — and if you cut them down — and you're just the man to do it — d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.
boyst Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Grateful we have a self-declared Constitution expert to decide on matters based on a wispy article. I went to devry. I'm a road scholar.
mileena Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh. Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins. And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash. And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable. Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none. Who was the idiot who drafted this guy? Edited May 12, 2017 by mileena
N.Y. Orangeman Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices. Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless. Wow... As a start, if I were your brother, I'd make sure you were less ignorant and work on your reading comprehension. This is an incredible post, even by internet soapbox standards. As for the procedure, its called a Nebbia hold. The appearance in court shouldn't have been necessary; a tax return and a brokerage/bank accountant should have been sufficient. The Judge should release him based on what I assume are the aforementioned documents or a Petition for Habeas Corpus should follow next. Edited May 12, 2017 by N.Y. Orangeman
boyst Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Wow... As a start, if I were your brother, I'd make sure you were less ignorant and work on your reading comprehension. This is an incredible post, even by internet soapbox standards. As for the procedure, its called a Nebbia hold. The appearance in court shouldn't have been necessary; a tax return and a brokerage/bank accountant should have been sufficient. The Judge should release him based on what I assume are the aforementioned documents or a Petition for Habeas Corpus should follow next. if you were my brother you would probably got put in a hucklebuck for calling me ignorant. But, you'd have been raised with class and not had to worry about me skipping bail. And if I did, you'd have beat my ass. I didn't skipy bail. Either way, full disclaimer. I didn't read all of your post. I don't care enough to do so, because whatever Anyway, Sammy is still an !@#$.
Bill from NYC Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Imagine photos of Sammy in the same room with gang bangers posted in the media..Do you think that they would be strangers? Shouldn't it bother you too? The law should be the law for everyone. If you open the door for variable legal requirements when you think the people involved are "bad hombres" or what have you (does "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell?), you open the door for variable legal requirements when it's in the perceived interest of the government. And that is the path of authoritarianism at best, not democracy. You must hate the RICO laws too, no? Let's can agree to disagree, shall we? I dislike murderers. I have seen enough of their work and don't view these darlings from an abstract, lofty, sanctimonious perch. Edited May 12, 2017 by Bill from NYC
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 That's a judge on a power trip. Deny him the bail if you must, but Sammy shouldn't have to appear for his brother's legal troubles. He's got more important things to concern himself with. More important than family? Doubt it.
Elite Poster Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) if I bailed my brother id make damn sure he showed up even if it was $10. I'm not perfect but I have integrity. I know responsibility. And I man up to own my choices. Samuel doesn't, it seems. He is a piss poor asshat in character and has shown that countless times. Remember the comment about all us little people? Yeah, I'll remembered that when he is homeless in 20 yrs hanging with peerless. He's in Buffalo trying to get better at his job and didn't have time to leave because his brother made mistakes. Man you are clueless. if you were my brother you would probably got put in a hucklebuck for calling me ignorant. But, you'd have been raised with class and not had to worry about me skipping bail. And if I did, you'd have beat my ass. I didn't skipy bail. Either way, full disclaimer. I didn't read all of your post. I don't care enough to do so, because whatever Anyway, Sammy is still an !@#$. What is a hucklebuck EDIT: Hucklebuck: "It's a sexual position where the girl is laying on her back and the guy puts her legs behind her head" - you must be close with your brother... Edited May 13, 2017 by Elite Poster
Zulu Cthulhu Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Whatever the case, Sammy Watkins is a nutcase, and needs to be cut ASAP. He's a liability and failed to show in court. Brilliant. Pay the bail; the judge asks you to come to court; he doesn't show. We have a mental genius here. Ugh. Moreover, stop saying Jari McMiller is his bother. He isn't. He is his HALF-BROTHER. LOL. Huge difference. A half-brother is not family. They have the same father but different mothers. A half-sibling is like step-relative or maybe in-law, or not even that. I know I despise my half-brother and his family. Stay away from the gang-banger. That is one of the reasons the Bills don't want Watkins. And...to make matters worse, Watkins has another half brother, Jaylen Watkins. But this half-brother come from a different father, as opposed to his other half-brother Jari, who comes from a different mother. This is screwed up. This entire family is trash. And Sammy also has two daughters, each from a different mother. Unbelievable. Sean McDermott only wants character players. Sammy Watkins clearly has none. Who was the idiot who drafted this guy? So, we're allowed to call you trash as well, since, although we don't know you, you admit you have a half-sibling? Because you certainly sound like you fit the bill.
Elite Poster Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) So, we're allowed to call you trash as well, since, although we don't know you, you admit you have a half-sibling? Because you certainly sound like you fit the bill. Tom Brady has kids from multiple women............................this guy you quoted is going to ignore this though because it won't go along with his narrative. AMERICA 2017 BABY Edited May 13, 2017 by Elite Poster
Zulu Cthulhu Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Tom Brady has kids from multiple women............................this guy you quoted is going to ignore this though because it won't go along with his narrative. AMERICA 2017 BABY No kidding. That little factoid goes conveniently ignored. It takes all kinds, but it seems like the first ones around here eager to jump on any player with even a hint of a behavioral issue have the strongest whiff of scumbag about them.
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