mead107 Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Which one would you draft if both came out in the draft this year? Need that time machine
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Brady... I have a feeling this kid is going to turn out ok
Big Turk Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Brady... I have a feeling this kid is going to turn out ok And I wouldn't have waited til the 6th round
MDH Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Brady QBing the Bills in the late 80 and into the 90s would have won multiple Super Bowls. That team might have gone down as the greatest ever with Brady at the helm.
Iron Maiden Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Brady... I have a feeling this kid is going to turn out ok I'm still waiting to see how he does in his 16th year...the 1st 15 could simply have been beginner's luck..... On a serious note, how is this really a question ? We all love JK, but no one in their right mind would pass on Brady knowing what we know now.....
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Clearly Brady has had a far better career. But I have always contended that if Brady wasn't on the Patriots, and didn't have Bellidick's mastery finding guys that he could plus in and protect Marcia, and if Brady played on virtually any other team and had to face a constant rush in his face, he wouldn't have turned out nearly as good. And yes, I know how smart he is and how fast he can get the ball out and how he can move in the pocket. I also know he cant deal with a strong rush.
Augie Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 I'm still waiting to see how he does in his 16th year...the 1st 15 could simply have been beginner's luck..... On a serious note, how is this really a question ? We all love JK, but no one in their right mind would pass on Brady knowing what we know now..... Funny. And yes.
Doc Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 I wish Kelly had played in the era where they protected quarterbacks like anything and opened up the passing game. And that the Bills had a DC like Belichick.
Iron Maiden Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Clearly Brady has had a far better career. But I have always contended that if Brady wasn't on the Patriots, and didn't have Bellidick's mastery finding guys that he could plus in and protect Marcia, and if Brady played on virtually any other team and had to face a constant rush in his face, he wouldn't have turned out nearly as good. And yes, I know how smart he is and how fast he can get the ball out and how he can move in the pocket. I also know he cant deal with a strong rush. No QB does well against a constant pass rush.....as far as guys playing with him, with the exception of Gronk, he had Moss for 2 years....and broke all the records one of those year...and that's pretty much it.....I think Brady has done more with less compare to any QB in NFL history......He won SBs with David Givens and Deion Branch as his best weapons.....that's ridiculous....
mead107 Posted May 3, 2017 Author Posted May 3, 2017 I would go kelly all the way. He is a lot tougher.
Iron Maiden Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 I would go kelly all the way. He is a lot tougher. All I care about is winning...and Brady does that...a lot.....
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 No QB does well against a constant pass rush.....as far as guys playing with him, with the exception of Gronk, he had Moss for 2 years....and broke all the records one of those year...and that's pretty much it.....I think Brady has done more with less compare to any QB in NFL history......He won SBs with David Givens and Deion Branch as his best weapons.....that's ridiculous.... I'm not talking about a constant pass rush every play, I mean what virtually every QB faces on every team except the Patriots (and Dak Prescott last year). There is no question IMO he has had better protection than any QB in the last 25 years. And it's half him and half Bellichick IMO.
Iron Maiden Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) I'm not talking about a constant pass rush every play, I mean what virtually every QB faces on every team except the Patriots (and Dak Prescott last year). There is no question IMO he has had better protection than any QB in the last 25 years. And it's half him and half Bellichick IMO. There's some truth to that...Dante Scarnecchia ( spelling? ) is quite the Oline coach also....he left after the SB win vs Seattle and Brady got killed the year after in the Championship at Denver...he comes back, they win another SB.... Edited May 3, 2017 by Iron Maiden
Seasons1992 Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 I would go kelly all the way. He is a lot tougher. While I agree......and the only jersey I've ever purchased is his, in 1992......Brady has those rings. ESPN made a commercial about Vinatieri not getting through a metal detector due to them, and Jimbo was behind him in line. Rings. Jim, I *heart* you.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 There's some truth to that...Dante Scarnecchia ( spelling? ) is quite the Oline coach also....he left after the SB win vs Seattle and Brady got killed the year after in the Championship at Denver...he comes back, they win another SB.... Yep. There are entire games he virtually never gets touched. Granted, a lot of it is him. He's smart, quick release, throws ton of quick hitters, great at moving in pocket. But he gets ridiculous protection every single game and season. It's also not that crazy to think that the greatest QBs of all time get help from their coach and others. Joe Montana and Steve Young are two of the very best ever and who knows what they would have done without Bill Walsh and Jerry Rice. Young got killed his first couple years.
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