BarleyNY Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 8:16 PM, thebandit27 said: I think he'll want to perform for the huge contract, and if he gets offered the huge contract here, he'll sign. For me, the bigger issue is that the team has exposed themselves to the potential of losing him if they aren't willing to pony up the top-5 salary. The route to a huge salary for Sammy in Buffalo was for them to pick up the option. This is a clear signal that the two will part ways after this upcoming season. I don't see a path to him remaining a Bill except for the franchise tag. If he has a poor season, then he will hit FA and take a short, prove it deal somewhere with a proven QB and an offense that can get him paid. Results from a mediocre or good season season will get him the same except with a better deal. A great, injury-free season could definitely get him tagged by Buffalo, but that would likely just keep him here one more season. I can't see both sides agreeing on a contract though. This FO isn't going to give him a huge deal because of his injury problems. If they were willing to gamble on those, then they'd have picked up his option.
Boatdrinks Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:06 PM, oldmanfan said: It is not a no confidence vote. It is a let's make sure you're heathy vote Is it? If they knew SW was going to have a healthy and productive season in 2017, would the Bills pick up the option? Yes, they would. So how will SW think about this decision ? Not like a fan, he's going to think " all the work I've done and gotten injured and rehabbed and you don't want to risk paying me? " That's what he gets for his efforts. No doubt he will use that as a motivating factor if he is healthy , to play his way out of here. If he has that good season in 2017 , he will let them know he's not signing the tag.
BarleyNY Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 9:56 PM, Wayne Cubed said: Ugh, damnit, this is all my fault. I bought a Watkins jersey his rookie year, cursed him. BURN THE WITCH!
vincec Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) On 5/2/2017 at 7:17 PM, BuffaloBud420 said: You got to look at it from Sammys side. He definitely won't resign after being disrespected. So mail it in, so they don't franchise you.I'd like someone to disrespect me with all the money he got. On 5/2/2017 at 10:06 PM, HappyDays said: It's only $2 million above the option Shaw. I think this was the right move. Not for Sammy's play but for his injury concerns. If he has another nagging lower leg injury this year that could have been $13 million in dead money... I'll pay the additional $2 million to find out what we have in Sammy.The last I saw the estimate was $17m for the franchise tag, so $4m more. He would need some kind of year to warrant that. Either they sign him to a new long term contract or he walks. Edited May 2, 2017 by vincec
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:15 PM, vincec said: I'd like someone to disrespect me with all the money he got. The last I saw the estimate was $17m for the franchise tag, so $4m more. ....2017 transition tag estimate is $13.3 million.....maybe $14+ mil in 2018.....so you're saving $7 mil for 2017 and get a "look" at his health and production......seems like a smart move IMO...........
VADC Bills Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 7:22 PM, YoloinOhio said: @salsports Sean McDermott has said numerous times earn the right to win. Looks like he's challenging Watkins to prove he can stay healthy and produce ...if that happens, Bills can still place franchise tag on Watkins (albeit at a higher cost) or workout extension. We'll see how 2017 goes Who challenges McDermott? Can this guy win? I agree with your assessment on Sammy's health but it seems like the new regime wants their people.
Green Lightning Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 7:17 PM, BuffaloBud420 said: You got to look at it from Sammys side. He definitely won't resign after being disrespected. So mail it in, so they don't franchise you. Ridiculous. If he performs he gets extended.
vincec Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:18 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....2017 transition tag estimate is $13.3 million.....maybe $14+ mil in 2018.....so you're saving $7 mil for 2017 and get a "look" at his health and production......seems like a smart move IMO........... Transition tag? Interesting. That only gives them the right of first refusal with no compensation if he signs with someone else, right? What good is that?
oldmanfan Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:16 PM, Boatdrinks said: Is it? If they knew SW was going to have a healthy and productive season in 2017, would the Bills pick up the option? Yes, they would. So how will SW think about this decision ? Not like a fan, he's going to think " all the work I've done and gotten injured and rehabbed and you don't want to risk paying me? " That's what he gets for his efforts. No doubt he will use that as a motivating factor if he is healthy , to play his way out of here. If he has that good season in 2017 , he will let them know he's not signing the tag. You are not reading correctly. If they knew he was going to be healthy in 2017 this would be a non-issue
oldmanfan Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 8:53 PM, Boatdrinks said: And Julio missed the same or more games than SW with the injury. If you can't make cuts / get in and out of breaks you may as well not be out there. If he recovers and plays like Jones they'll be happy to throw a truckload of money at him
Boatdrinks Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:18 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....2017 transition tag estimate is $13.3 million.....maybe $14+ mil in 2018.....so you're saving $7 mil for 2017 and get a "look" at his health and production......seems like a smart move IMO........... How do you figure they are " saving" anything for 2017.
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:19 PM, Green Lightning said: Ridiculous. If he performs he gets extended. He may not want to get extended here. He also can only perform as good as his QB On 5/2/2017 at 10:27 PM, oldmanfan said: If he recovers and plays like Jones they'll be happy to throw a truckload of money at him He will never play like Jones until he get a QB like Ryan.
Boatdrinks Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:27 PM, oldmanfan said: If he recovers and plays like Jones they'll be happy to throw a truckload of money at him And he will be happy to say he's not signing it and force a trade
Sweats Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Im okay with it.........the guy can just barely stay on the field each week. Alas, just another Whaley garbage legacy left behind for the new staff to clean up. Aye Carumba.
Bill_with_it Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Thank goodness level heads prevailed. Sure would hate to have given away money in the event of an injury, much rather pay him his true worth if hes capable of being productive and healthy for a season.
Rock Pile Guy Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Not really worried about this. He has a good year, he will get the $$, if not....see ya!
oldmanfan Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:30 PM, Boatdrinks said: And he will be happy to say he's not signing it and force a trade Sure he will.
Bill_with_it Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 8:20 PM, Shaw66 said: Maybe they franchise him, but that costs $15 million and the Bills have no flexibility to spread that money. We'll see how it works out. They had nonflexibiltiy in spreading the 13. They can franchise him and workout a contrqct before the deadline if needed.
CodeMonkey Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 7:17 PM, BuffaloBud420 said: You got to look at it from Sammys side. He definitely won't resign after being disrespected. So mail it in, so they don't franchise you. That's brilliant. Mail it in so no team will want you.
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 10:45 PM, CodeMonkey said: That's brilliant. Mail it in so no team will want you. No team will want 24 year old Sammy Watkins. Doubt it.
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