BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 We know which way the defense goes. However it looks like Beane and McDermotts offensive philosophy couldn't be more different. Beane is an offense guy, played Quarterback in college and scouted QB and offensive skill positions his entire career until being assistant GM. You look at Carolinas offense and ours as it sits, quite different. If you look at the players Carolina has on offense. They like them BIG (Benjamin, Funchess, Olsen). They also like to let Cam sit back and sling it, we don't know if Taylor is capable of that. Dennison likes a lot of PA, boots, screens. With short yardage throws, probably occasionally taking a deep shot. I think we should stay away from Beane, If we want to go the current way on Offense.
papazoid Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 as long as he does whatever McD tells him......it's a perfect fit
LeGOATski Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Since when did GMs become scheme-defined? That's for the coaches to worry about.
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 Since when did GMs become scheme-defined? That's for the coaches to worry about. GMs all have different preference in players and those players should align with what scheme they want to run.
LeGOATski Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 GMs all have different preference in players and those players should align with what scheme they want to run. GMs don't run a scheme. The coaches do.
Blokestradamus Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 What in the world are you talking about, man? Two days ago, you didn't know who this guy was
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 GMs don't run a scheme. The coaches do. They pick the players. Beane likes players that don't fit our current offensive scheme. What in the world are you talking about, man? Two days ago, you didn't know who this guy was Actually I did.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) as long as he does whatever McD tells him......it's a perfect fit This ^ For better or for worse this is McD's show. If Beane is brought that would be the reason. Edited May 2, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5
Blokestradamus Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Actually I did. And you know exactly what he likes because of what his boss picks?
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) And you know exactly what he likes because of what his boss picks? If that's what his boss likes, He is doing heavy scouting on them and knows what to look for. You now want him to pick players from a entirely different pool? Get someone that has picked players for the scheme we run. Common sense. Edited May 2, 2017 by BuffaloBud420
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Beane was building personnel for a different offensive scheme in Carolina than we have here. I'm confused as to why this means we shouldn't hire him. It's the OC's scheme, not his. What am I missing ...
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 as long as he does whatever McD tells him......it's a perfect fit You're probably right.
Green Lightning Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 This is a non isue. A GM doesn't get into schemes. If the two get along and Beane has a plan to build a sustainable successful team, that's all you need.
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 Beane was building personnel for a different offensive scheme in Carolina than we have here. I'm confused as to why this means we shouldn't hire him. It's the OC's scheme, not his. What am I missing ... So you want him to pick players for a scheme he never had to before?
KellyToughII Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Since when did GMs become scheme-defined? That's for the coaches to worry about. Exactly.
ALF Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 as long as he does whatever McD tells him......it's a perfect fit I think that is what it will be
BuffaloBud420 Posted May 2, 2017 Author Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) McDermott and Whaley didn't have the same vision for the team. Now it doesn't matter if McDermott and the next GM don't have the same vision for the team? Wow. I wonder of some if you guys even watch football. Edited May 2, 2017 by BuffaloBud420
BillsFan17 Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) Strawman... literally this is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. Even if we wanted to follow this absurd logic, aren't Panthers fans saying we stole their draft? Meaning we would line up ideally with what players Beane would take. Even tho Beane isn't the actual GM there. Edited May 2, 2017 by BillsFan17
frostbitmic Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 Beane should be strongly considered for the GM job. If he is brought in, it's because McDermott knows him and feels comfortable with him going forward. The fact he once played QB should be beneficial as he knows or should know what offensive talent looks like. Being an NFL GM is akin to being the top scout of college players, scouting players on other teams practice squads and scouting free agents. Beane would make sense for the job.
8-8 Forever? Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) This is a non isue. A GM doesn't get into schemes. If the two get along and Beane has a plan to build a sustainable successful team, that's all you need. yes. Beane would need to realize the GM role is not a GM "everyone reports to me" role, for this to work. A title without the power. Works in Atlanta just fine. Limits the candidate pool pretty dramatically, but hey, Pegs f 'd it up by picking the HC first. Ooops. Unless he already knew who he had for GM (doubtful). This is what happens when a overly rich real estate investor all of a sudden is running an actual day to day operating entity. Apple and an Orange. He had two ways to go, keep Lynn, get Gus Bradley, keep O continuity and go with Gus' 4-3 D and try to win now, or go Polian/true GM and give up the management of the team and let a true football guy rebuild the org from the top down. He did neither of these two options. Lets hope for the best. G-d help us. Edited May 2, 2017 by jmcraig44
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