transplantbillsfan Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Are you really comparing the two? Lol.... You made a statement about what very good QBs do, not me. By your definition, Rodgers isn't a "very good QB," much less the Elite one we all know he actually is. These were your (poorly chosen) words, not mine. I made no comparison... don't even know what you're asking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Since the Maclin thread was closed... what exactly...? The fact that you're rebooting this thread and this conversation is making me chuckle a bit... somebody had to do something, it was about to slip off the first page. it'll never get to 300 pages if it is allowed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 The OP wouldn't even mention this guy if he didn't have it hard for TT...FACT. All indications say he doesn't have it...he's a physical talent, haven't seen much or heard much that speaks to his football IQ and feel for the position. I have no issues with those who still hold out hope, but that's all it is, and it's based on blind faith. Yeah. What kind of guy likes the QB on the team he roots for enough that he actually goes to a fan forum for the team and posts positive stats about him? OP is a weirdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 There's an actual name for this kind of logical fallacy. I can't think of the name right now, though. Anyone...? Besides, did I post an actual assessment by him of Taylor? Do you believe he skews his data because he's enamored with Taylor? ad hominem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yeah. What kind of guy likes the QB on the team he roots for enough that he actually goes to a fan forum for the team and posts positive stats about him? OP is a weirdo. lol This is perfect for a few in here. Why do they bother watching the games when they will be rooting against TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 lol This is perfect for a few in here. Why do they bother watching the games when they will be rooting against TT. I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone here is actively rooting against him. There are just some fans who don't expect him to play well. And as inconsistent as his play has been, they're correct about 48% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone here is actively rooting against him. There are just some fans who don't expect him to play well. And as inconsistent as his play has been, they're correct about 48% of the time. Believe me , there are a couple for sure who root against him. One is in this thread. I believe you responded to his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Are you really comparing the two? Lol.... You see this a lot. A person criticizes a part of Taylor's game. Someone responds by pointing to numbers from another QB, such as Rodger's record of fourth quarter comebacks, Russell Wilson's first two years starting, or other QBs' percent of throws across the middle. The response is usually some variation of "How DARE you mention Tyrod's name in the same breath with (insert star quarterback's name here). Now, DirtDart's version is completely unobjectionable and Rodgers is clearly a better player - though that just makes him more valuable as a benchmark for judging others. But some people's moral affront re TT comparisons get a bit drama-queenish. They also can be pretty absurd. For instance, I've seen the "How DARE you" thing with Kirk Cousins - This from people who apparently don't know Cousin's first years starting were a dumpster fire, leading to him getting benched for Colt McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Believe me , there are a couple for sure who root against him. One is in this thread. I believe you responded to his post. Folks used to get upset and say fans were "rooting against" JP and EJ at one point. Then they got let go by the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 You are a sad little man... Posts like this from you speak volumes. I've known this about you for quite sometime, but it's always nice to have it out there. And to follow that up with an accusation of being prejudiced? It's safe to say you are at the top of your game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Folks used to get upset and say fans were "rooting against" JP and EJ at one point. Then they got let go by the team. No matter how bad a QB can be, most fans still root for them and the team to win. TT is miles better than those two QBs. He is the best QB we have had this century. Folks used to get upset and say fans were "rooting against" JP and EJ at one point. Then they got let go by the team. And some make things up to help their infatuation of hate-like putting words in Maclin's mouth for statements he never made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 No matter how bad a QB can be, most fans still root for them and the team to win. TT is miles better than those two QBs. He is the best QB we have had this century. And some make things up to help their infatuation of hate-like putting words in Maclin's mouth for statements he never made. Orton was a better QB. Like I said, history repeats. QB shows promise, folks fall in love. QB stumbles, some fans start thinking he may not be the one. These fans face constant attacks about how they are biased and haters and are rooting against the QB. 1 year later, QB is no longer the starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Orton was a better QB. Like I said, history repeats. QB shows promise, folks fall in love. QB stumbles, some fans start thinking he may not be the one. These fans face constant attacks about how they are biased and haters and are rooting against the QB. 1 year later, QB is no longer the starting QB. Orton was ok, but not better. TT is not a terrible QB. Far far from it. But go right ahead and predict (want) him to fail badly. once again, I repeat it a million times, but 15-14, 47 TDs, 15 turnovers and over 1000 yards rushing is not, and never will be the terrible you want it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Posts like this from you speak volumes. I've known this about you for quite sometime, but it's always nice to have it out there. And to follow that up with an accusation of being prejudiced? It's safe to say you are at the top of your game today. like you're some saint, LOL quite the contrary take note, post was not edited so you don't have that to cry about, souless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yeah. What kind of guy likes the QB on the team he roots for enough that he actually goes to a fan forum for the team and posts positive stats about him? OP is a weirdo. The thing is he initially started this thread with this little intro about Fahey and how he really thought he had some interesting stuff...it just so happens that it coincides with his views on Taylor, so it's good stuff. If it wasn't...then we wouldn't hear a word about this guy and his numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Some people will never accept Tyrod because he does not fit the mold of what they think a QB should be. He has his strengths and his weaknesses. Do I think he is a Franchise QB? No I don't but do I think you can win with him in the right system I do. I don't care how he scores whether with his legs or his arm they still count as TDs. Until there is a better option and someone beats him out for the job got to make sure they surround him with a strong D and running game. Edited June 14, 2017 by billieve420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) No matter how bad a QB can be, most fans still root for them and the team to win. TT is miles better than those two QBs. He is the best QB we have had this century. And some make things up to help their infatuation of hate-like putting words in Maclin's mouth for statements he never made. Not believing someone is good is not the same as rooting against them. You pick some petty fights and are constantly arguing with people. Try and lighten up a little. Not everyone sees things the way you do. Edited June 14, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Not believing someone is good is not the same as rooting against them. You pick some petty fights and are constantly arguing with people. Try and lighten up a little. Not everyone sees things the way you do. I think there is a lot of that on both sides..... I did notice when I stopped attacking people for their opinions the conversations became less antagonistic Everyone is entitled to their opinion regardless if it is the same as mine You see this a lot. A person criticizes a part of Taylor's game. Someone responds by pointing to numbers from another QB, such as Rodger's record of fourth quarter comebacks, Russell Wilson's first two years starting, or other QBs' percent of throws across the middle. The response is usually some variation of "How DARE you mention Tyrod's name in the same breath with (insert star quarterback's name here). Now, DirtDart's version is completely unobjectionable and Rodgers is clearly a better player - though that just makes him more valuable as a benchmark for judging others. But some people's moral affront re TT comparisons get a bit drama-queenish. They also can be pretty absurd. For instance, I've seen the "How DARE you" thing with Kirk Cousins - This from people who apparently don't know Cousin's first years starting were a dumpster fire, leading to him getting benched for Colt McCoy. There is a reason why Aaron Roger's is a franchise qb and Tyrod Taylor is not. I mean....I am a big fan of Tyrod Taylor.....the level of qb talent is not the same between Aaron Roger's and Tyrod Taylor....there is no shame in admitting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Orton was ok, but not better. TT is not a terrible QB. Far far from it. But go right ahead and predict (want) him to fail badly. once again, I repeat it a million times, but 15-14, 47 TDs, 15 turnovers and over 1000 yards rushing is not, and never will be the terrible you want it to be. I never called him terrible, do you have me confused with someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Not believing someone is good is not the same as rooting against them. You pick some petty fights and are constantly arguing with people. Try and lighten up a little. Not everyone sees things the way you do. You are right for the most part but Crusher has been routing against Taylor since he beat out EJ day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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