outsidethebox Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Well, Pegs is finally cleaning house...........good for him. Out with the old and in with the new. Not really, Brandon and overdorf are still there. it's more of a "The king is dead! Long live the king!" situation. Same old Bills
Bangarang Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 buddy of mine was one of these guys. our team is toxic Can you elaborate? Curious to hear what things were like behind closed doors
FireChan Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 buddy of mine was one of these guys. our team is toxic Sorry for him. I try to separate the people from the shirts around here, because of what Kirby said. When guys who I think stink get cut, I'm glad, but never because of them personally.
JM2009 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Posted May 1, 2017 Not really, Brandon and overdorf are still there. it's more of a "The king is dead! Long live the king!" situation. Same old Bills Overdorf will be gone soon when the new GM is in place.
Big Turk Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I dont understand why the pro personnel side got released...those guys uncovered more hidden gems from waiver wire, practice squad pickups, and low budget FA's than any other team in the league... doesn't make much sense to me...
Thurman#1 Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) I usually try not to be overly sensitive here but this is beyond appalling. I know many of these people and they have wives and kids. They are good people. It's part of the business but to celebrate them losing their jobs is disgusting. These are guys that have to go home and tell their spouses that they no longer have a job. They aren't rich by any means and did their best to improve the team. There were hits and there were misses. It is a part of the business but an awful part (not one to be celebrated). Stay classy Same is true of players, yet plenty here celebrate guys getting cut for other guys they think are better. It's the nature of fans. They celebrate anything they think will make the team better, even guys getting fired or cut. Nobody got so angry when Rex was fired and his lower-paid assistant coaches also. I dont understand why the pro personnel side got released...those guys uncovered more hidden gems from waiver wire, practice squad pickups, and low budget FA's than any other team in the league... doesn't make much sense to me... That's a good point, IMHO. Maybe they just wanted to sweep clean and give the new GM the chance to build his own staff. Maybe he could even rehire some of these guys, though that would be unusual, I think. Edited May 1, 2017 by Thurman#1
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I think it was Fairburn who said there were scouts showing up to pro days with no tablet, pen, notebook, etc.
Kirby Jackson Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Same is true of players, yet plenty here celebrate guys getting cut for other guys they think are better. It's the nature of fans. They celebrate anything they think will make the team better, even guys getting fired or cut. Nobody got so angry when Rex was fired and his lower-paid assistant coaches also. I don't disagree that we should be more sensitive. The big difference is the $. If Rex gets fired his mortgage is fine. The assistant coaches I'm way more sensitive to but even still they are making a few hundred thousand a year. It's not perfect and they move their families around a lot. They know what they are signing up for though. It's like the players, short earning window and you may bounce around. I feel for them too but they can keep food on the table and their kids in school.
GaryPinC Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) I dont understand why the pro personnel side got released...those guys uncovered more hidden gems from waiver wire, practice squad pickups, and low budget FA's than any other team in the league... doesn't make much sense to me... This. I am truly sorry to hear so many losing their jobs. We also seemed to do well drafting DB's. Thrown all away with little seeming intelligence to it. I can only hope Polian or someone who knows how to run a football organization is in the background but I doubt it. McDermott has been given way too much power for a rookie head coach. I hope he can handle it but this all seems incredibly amateurish management and I'm worried the future will be the same as the past until we get a plan and more consistent leadership from the owners. Edited May 1, 2017 by GaryPinC
stuvian Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) what's the Guinness Book of Records say for the most NFL staff fired in one day? Edited May 1, 2017 by stuvian
timtebow15 Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 We drafted some good players over the years. The question is what do we get instead. This group seemed to be decidedly average and you hate to see people go. Although I think with a basic draft chart I could have done better using logic - at least in the first two rounds. That Maybin pick was a crime. We all saw that bust a mile away. We drafted okay after the first couple rounds but I think in general the NFL overrates potential and athleticism and underrates character and intelligence. You end up with players like Darius who only perform at a high level infrequently.
K D Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Am I the only one on here that has been contacted to interview?They contacted me and said I'm the only one on this forum that knows what they are talking about. I doubt any of you scrubs will get a shot
JAMIEBUF12 Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Sad to see Jim Monos and Rob Hanrahan leave. As echoed by others, it's a damn shame that some families have to suffer for the sins of others. I hope at least some of them aren't out of work for long. Yes very sad to see rob h leave. Hisself wife and two small children lived and breathed bills football and had just bought his very first house last year :-(
Greybeard Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 They contacted me and said I'm the only one on this forum that knows what they are talking about. I doubt any of you scrubs will get a shot If that is true, there is still some housecleaning yet to be done. I dont understand why the pro personnel side got released...those guys uncovered more hidden gems from waiver wire, practice squad pickups, and low budget FA's than any other team in the league... doesn't make much sense to me... There mid-season pick ups have done well. This could be a year where that is really missed.
Niagara Bill Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) The biggest issue here is the effect it has on the ability to attract new people. Money and term of contract becomes more important and loyalty is reduced. Common result in business in these circumstances. Of course the incestuous relationships at One Bills Drive have lead to this. The biggest power broker of the lot IMHO is Overdorf who has gradually taken more and more decision power. It is still sad that many long term people and their families pay the price for bad leadership. Edited May 1, 2017 by Niagara Bill
Forward Progress Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I dont understand why the pro personnel side got released...those guys uncovered more hidden gems from waiver wire, practice squad pickups, and low budget FA's than any other team in the league... doesn't make much sense to me... I agree completely with this statement.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 What makes you say that? I talked to him a few times, he's very bright and has a serious passion. I will not be surprised when he finds success. Just my personal experience.
Joe Miner Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 These aren't people that have been there for 17 years. These are people making like $60k a year in some cases. You don't celebrate what those families are now going through. It was a total lack of class on your part. This as well as the "celebration" for the layoffs at ESPN. Anyone that celebrates or takes pleasure in someone being let go for non performance related reasons, who was doing everything they were asked for in their job is classless. Maybe 1 day some of these people will find themselves in a spot where their employer starts handing out pink slips for something other than performance based reasons. I wonder if they'll realize how classless they're being now?
BmarvB Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I usually try not to be overly sensitive here but this is beyond appalling. I know many of these people and they have wives and kids. They are good people. It's part of the business but to celebrate them losing their jobs is disgusting. These are guys that have to go home and tell their spouses that they no longer have a job. They aren't rich by any means and did their best to improve the team. There were hits and there were misses. It is a part of the business but an awful part (not one to be celebrated). Stay classy Agreed. Someone losing their job is not cause for celebration
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