Alphadawg7 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 You dont just outright release qb draft picks I think C. Jones goes to practice squad unless the improvement in his game is significant from year 1 to year 2 QBs are just too hard to find Ask Brian Brohm about that who got cut a year later after being a 2nd round pick.
Prickly Pete Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Trent was okay until the Bills led Adrian Wilson walk right up and end Trent's confidence permanently. You guys never give up.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 FWiW, Cardale won't make it to the PS and neither would Peterman. A team will stash them on the back of their roster until they do their evaluation.
cba fan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) They will give a complete vote of confidence on Cardale as a developemental prospect. Then cut him the next day. NFL should really let NFL teams have 4 or 5? QB's with 2 or 3? not counting on 53 man roster or salary cap. How else can NFL develop these college style offense guys who are trying to play Pro style offenses? Maybe set some compensation level for QB 4 and 5 like a 5th rounder if any other team wants to sign him. NFL has a real problem finding competent QB play. Developmental league could really help this. Edited April 30, 2017 by cba fan
DonInBuffalo Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 They'll take 4 QBs to camp. Woodrum probably gets released relatively soon. The question I find interesting is whether they wind up keeping 2 or 3. Peterman would have to really, really stink to not make the final 53, so that's unlikely. But OTOH if it turns out he actually looks better than the other backups, management might decide not to waste a roster spot on a 3rd QB who doesn't really have a future with the team.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 They'll take 4 QBs to camp. Woodrum probably gets released relatively soon. The question I find interesting is whether they wind up keeping 2 or 3. Peterman would have to really, really stink to not make the final 53, so that's unlikely. But OTOH if it turns out he actually looks better than the other backups, management might decide not to waste a roster spot on a 3rd QB who doesn't really have a future with the team. I can see that as an option.
3rdand12 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I can see that as an option. as well as it should be. I consider Yates the QB who can teach the McD system more than i would him as a backup. Peterman or Jones should be the #2 on game day if all goes well ..
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) You guys never give up. ....why?....never anybody better at throwing a 6 yard skinny post BOMB......guy had it according to Walsh........hell even Jaws said he was the "real deal"........................ Edited April 30, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 If I was a betting man, come opening week, TT is your starter, TJ is the backup, Peterman is your 3rd, and Cardale goes to the practice squad. If I had to bet, this is what I see, too. It depends on how much Cardale has grown in a year and if he wows them with his potential. I imagine that Peterman will outplay him in camp and maybe preseason. If Cardale looks a lot better then maybe they think they can get away without Yates.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) I would bet that Yates and Woodrum are the odd men out. Yates was sort of an insurance policy IMO. Now that they added another QB he will be gone. Cardale and Peterman will compete for the number 2 role and this may be the last year for one of them. The Bills are going to see what they have first. It is like we always talk about, "keep bringing in guys until you have a franchise QB." I've read that 1,000+ times on here. They have 2 guys that they are trying to find out about and we may have another next year. I think Woodrum is the "OTA/camp arm". He may not make it to camp. Yates is the vet with playing experience and the putative #2. Until/unless McWrestler feels comfortable with Peterman or Cardale starting, Yates will stick around. I think Peterman and Cardale are the "Highlanders" as in "there can be only one", but it's possible that if the Bills feel super-confident one of them could start, Yates will go. But why cut the developmental guy when he is already as good as the scrub vet? That's the point. Yates is a 0% chance to be a franchise guy. Even if Cardale is < 5% it still makes more sense. You can always find a Yates on the street (in fact you will probably find Yates on the street). Keep in mind the "scrub vet" spent 3 years with Dennison in Houston. He knows the system. He can help Dennison teach it to the other QB. That is his value, why he is here, and what he brings that can't be found on the street. Peterman is also a Whaley guy... What makes you think that? I think the presumption has to be that this year's draft belongs to McWrestler. Edited April 30, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Rumor in Peterman thread that TJ Yates plans to retire after TC and become a QB coach, so he'd work for David Culley. Just throwing it out there and if it comes down to him and Cardale, Yates is out. Money.
/dev/null Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Tyrod, Yates, and CJ on the 53 man. Peterman to Practice Squad (if he clears waivers)
#34fan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Rumor in Peterman thread that TJ Yates plans to retire after TC and become a QB coach, so he'd work for David Culley. Just throwing it out there and if it comes down to him and Cardale, Yates is out. Money. So that'll make 3 people I'd like to keep clear from my young QB... 1) George Whitfield.. 2)Jesse Palmer... 3)TJ Yates
Big Gun Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Peterman reminds me of Trent Edwards with some upside. I mean that in a good way. Could even be like a dak prescott type. Armstrength isn't as important as it used to be. Getting the ball quick and reading defenses are more important. also, they should keep all these qbs on unless one of them is definetly not good enough to be here. Never know when an injury bug happens Yup, I would say Peyton Mannings arm strength was pretty weak his last 4-5 years. He beat everybody with his brain. Peterman is also a Whaley guy... He is? Edited April 30, 2017 by old school
mannc Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Yates was the insurance policy if they did not draft another QB. They will choose the experience of Yates versus the potential of Jokes over the next several weeks. Yates is so bad that Jones has a chance to beat him out even though Jones is terrible too. It doesn't matter because Mr. Peterman will be #2 by the time training camp opens. I'm amazed that you could know this already. I could have sworn that Cardale has played only three quarters of preseason football (throwing the ball to guys who are now selling life insurance) and the last quarter of the last game of the regular season for a lame-duck interim coach in a game the Bills were actively trying to lose. Were there games that you saw Cardale play in this winter that led you to believe he is "terrible"? Tyrod, Yates, and CJ on the 53 man. Peterman to Practice Squad (if he clears waivers) No one knows any such thing. The Bills don't have to make a decision about these QBs until the last pre-season game. The only thing we know with any degree of certainly is that TT will be the starter (barring injury), but even that is not set in stone. Jones, Peterman or Yates could end up being QB2 or being cut. Who stays and who goes is going to depend on how they perform, not who drafted whom or whether one of them is a Whaley or a McDermott guy. That's as it should be.
Beast Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Peterman reminds me of Trent Edwards with some upside. I mean that in a good way. Could even be like a dak prescott type. Armstrength isn't as important as it used to be. Getting the ball quick and reading defenses are more important. also, they should keep all these qbs on unless one of them is definetly not good enough to be here. Never know when an injury bug happens Arm strength for a QB will always be important.
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Ask Brian Brohm about that who got cut a year later after being a 2nd round pick. it just does not happen often at all Alpha....your throwing out the exceptions
boyst Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Yates is a bad QB. He is worse TODAY than Cardale and Peterman. There is no value in keeping Yates. He will never be the guy. Cardale came in as a VERY raw prospect with a high ceiling. There is no reason to scrap the chance that he develops for a dime a dozen 3rd stringer because the guy has some starts. If Tyrod went down in the preseason and you didn't think Cardale or Peterman was ready you could just sign a guy off the street that's better than Yates. Here is the list of FA QBs still available: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/available/ Drafting Peterman all but sealed his fate. anyone thinking cardale jones is the answer to anything more than a backup quarterback in an emergecyt situation is foolish. yates ain't great, by any means. but the difference between the two doesn't matter when neither are reasonably expected to compete in the nfl as a second qb.
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