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Others have held it. It depends on the guy and the structure. A lot of the tasks overlap a lot. He can have a shared ticket office with slightly more robust management structures in it and it doesn't add any real work to his plate, for instance.

 

He's not sitting down to run two unrelated companies

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Others have held it. It depends on the guy and the structure. A lot of the tasks overlap a lot. He can have a shared ticket office with slightly more robust management structures in it and it doesn't add any real work to his plate, for instance.

 

He's not sitting down to run two unrelated companies

Other than reporting to the same owner, don't they have two completely separate staffs from administration to finance to operations?

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Other than reporting to the same owner, don't they have two completely separate staffs from administration to finance to operations?

I'm not sure how it's structured with the bills. Like I said, some organizations overlap a lot of duties.

 

Also, it depends how broad level his role is vs daily details. If you have robust management with each and he's running steering type decisions - it's not crazy.

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Easy he makes his boss tons of $$$$$$$

Yeah. People wrongly equate winning with success at running a major sports franchise. Sabres attendance this year? Right in the middle of the pack. And the Bills are very profitable; it would actually be hard not to make a lot of money with an NFL franchise, but it's not as if the bodies have stopped coming. Again, the Bills - a very small market team (unless you throw in Toronto, which you really shouldn't unless you have like a .20 factor or something) - fell right in the middle of the pack. So on the "do his teams win?" account, he's a miserable failure. On the "does he make his bosses money?" account, he's a double winner.

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Russ is the President of Pegula Sports Entertainment. Its a holding company which owns the Bills, Sabers, Bandits and Americans. Each team has it's own independent operating hierarchy and Russ oversees them all. It's a big job and he's pretty far removed to day to day operating decisions of just the Bills. He's not making football decisions of any kind at this point -he doesn't have time to.

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Russ is the President of Pegula Sports Entertainment. Its a holding company which owns the Bills, Sabers, Bandits and Americans. Each team has it's own independent operating hierarchy and Russ oversees them all. It's a big job and he's pretty far removed to day to day operating decisions of just the Bills. He's not making football decisions of any kind at this point -he doesn't have time to.

I'm sorry but this does not fit our beliefs. Prepare to be labeled a heretic.

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Russ is the President of Pegula Sports Entertainment. Its a holding company which owns the Bills, Sabers, Bandits and Americans. Each team has it's own independent operating hierarchy and Russ oversees them all. It's a big job and he's pretty far removed to day to day operating decisions of just the Bills. He's not making football decisions of any kind at this point -he doesn't have time to.

Managing Partner says otherwise

 

He has input in Football Operations anytime Pegulas talk to him.

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Managing Partner says otherwise

 

He has input in Football Operations anytime Pegulas talk to him.

In the sense that literally anyone that talks to a decision maker he does. And likely some more weight than the homeless guy that talked Cleveland into johnny football.... but no explicit decision making or football ranking

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Managing Partner says otherwise

 

He has input in Football Operations anytime Pegulas talk to him.

I get it. Some will never be happy until he's completely out of the picture; rational thought or not.

 

Think about it... Everyone Terry and Kim talk to have "influence"; children, friends, business associates, etc. Should they be totally sequestered?

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Russ is the President of Pegula Sports Entertainment. Its a holding company which owns the Bills, Sabers, Bandits and Americans. Each team has it's own independent operating hierarchy and Russ oversees them all. It's a big job and he's pretty far removed to day to day operating decisions of just the Bills. He's not making football decisions of any kind at this point -he doesn't have time to.

This is not completely true.

 

One of his titles is President of PS&E (they also do concerts and allegedly other entertainment projects not related to sports) IN ADDITION to his separate individual roles as President of each team directly (as well as the additional role as managing partner for the Bills).

 

It's an important distinction because you were otherwise assuming that there are separate hierarchies that he wasn't also at the top of.

 

Saying he doesn't handle the day-to-day is fine, but let's be honest his role has been pretty widespread since Pegula's took over. There is no way to say with any authority what his current role is regarding each team.

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This is not completely true.

 

One of his titles is President of PS&E (they also do concerts and allegedly other entertainment projects not related to sports) IN ADDITION to his separate individual roles as President of each team directly (as well as the additional role as managing partner for the Bills).

 

It's an important distinction because you were otherwise assuming that there are separate hierarchies that he wasn't also at the top of.

 

Saying he doesn't handle the day-to-day is fine, but let's be honest his role has been pretty widespread since Pegula's took over. There is no way to say with any authority what his current role is regarding each team.

Thanks for the clarification. Still seems like a lot of responsibility for one person, but I guess without knowing what his day to day tasks are or how many hours he spends a week in each role, my question will remain unanswered.

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I get it. Some will never be happy until he's completely out of the picture; rational thought or not.

 

Think about it... Everyone Terry and Kim talk to have "influence"; children, friends, business associates, etc. Should they be totally sequestered?

What a weird example.

 

The answer is...yes, IF one of Pegula's friends/children were named President of practically everything AND they had held a similar role for nearly 15 years, during a tremendous on the field/ice/whatever lacrosse is played on (lava?) drought AND their previous roles included being heavily involved with both personnel and day-to-day activities...yeah they should be sequestered.

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