dave mcbride Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Defense was bad. As was Tyrod and the offense. Both can be true. Defense was a lot worse; Taylor was OK (that is, not bad) in a bad situation. He didn't dominate or carry to the team to victory in an adverse situation; that I'll agree to. Otherwise, that's my view and I'm sticking with it.
jeffismagic Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Defense was a lot worse; Taylor was OK (that is, not bad) in a bad situation. He didn't dominate or carry to the team to victory in an adverse situation; that I'll agree to. Otherwise, that's my view and I'm sticking with it. Ok. No wish to delve into TT here, back to our regularly scheduled thread!
Big C Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Anybody watch PTI? They did a segment called "what are the bills doing?" But the place I was at didn't have the sound on. Wondering what they said.
dave mcbride Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Ok. No wish to delve into TT here, back to our regularly scheduled thread! Fair enough! One last thing though - the Bills have not beaten Pittsburgh in this century. Most of the games have been total domination by Pittsburgh.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Anybody watch PTI? They did a segment called "what are the bills doing?" But the place I was at didn't have the sound on. Wondering what they said. I guarantee you got the exact same experience that anyone with sound got.
Big C Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I guarantee you got the exact same experience that anyone with sound got. Haha, true.
HappyDays Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Anybody watch PTI? They did a segment called "what are the bills doing?" But the place I was at didn't have the sound on. Wondering what they said. They blasted the Pegulas, called Terry a new owner trying to come in guns a blazing. It was an awful segment and you missed nothing.
Alphadawg7 Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Off the top of my head I remember Pittsburgh daring us to throw and Tyrod not able to do anything but get one TD where the defense didn't give us the ball near the end zone. Then in garbage time he got some more yards and another score. Another game where the stats lie. I love this post. Not because its good, but because of the irony and arrogance of it. You literally open the post with "Off the top of my head", meaning you didn't actually do any research on the matter...then go on to site that the "stats" lie. So your opinion based on something you may or may not be remembering correctly because you did not actually research anything you wrote and just spit balled off the top of your head, is now somehow more valid and accurate than factual stats about the game? I literally laughed out loud when I read this.
Bangarang Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 It's not just one game; it's the last three games he played in. In all of them, he had a rating of 100+. He wasn't perfect in all of them, but no one is perfect. The trajectory points upward, but maybe it's just random statistical noise because of weak competition. We'll know for sure once the 2017 season is underway. At the end of the day, his lifetime QBR with Buffalo is 94.2. I think your best bet is to evaluate the entire body of work and not just a specific sampling of games because it reaches the conclusion you're looking for. Anybody watch PTI? Good luck finding someone to admit that.
Sweats Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 My question is: Do you think Whaley was informed prior to the draft that he would be released after the draft? Or do you think Whaley went in to draft thinking that a homerun draft could possibly save his job? Oh, i think Whaley knew that the executioner was a-knocking.
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 Anybody watch PTI? They did a segment called "what are the bills doing?" But the place I was at didn't have the sound on. Wondering what they said.@salsportsThe commentary on Bills just now on @PTI may have shown the most gross ignorance of who Terry Pegula is than anything I've heard/read yet. "You know how these (new owners) are, going in guns-a-blazing to show you how they know everything." That's embarrassing. Feel free to think he's made mistakes. Or in over his head. But that take right there is ignorant.
Fan in Chicago Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) @salsports The commentary on Bills just now on @PTI may have shown the most gross ignorance of who Terry Pegula is than anything I've heard/read yet. "You know how these (new owners) are, going in guns-a-blazing to show you how they know everything." That's embarrassing. Feel free to think he's made mistakes. Or in over his head. But that take right there is ignorant. I didn't hear the PTI thingy. But the words you quote are simply a colorful version of what you wrote right after that Edited May 1, 2017 by Fan in Chicago
dave mcbride Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I think your best bet is to evaluate the entire body of work and not just a specific sampling of games because it reaches the conclusion you're looking for. . I generally agree, but if their is a distinct trajectory of improvement in the most recent games, that's worth noting too.
4merper4mer Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 They blasted the Pegulas, called Terry a new owner trying to come in guns a blazing. It was an awful segment and you missed nothing. They read the script Bob Kraft sent....just like they always do....drunkard is not off the Toronto idea yet.
Fan in San Diego Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I heard a rumor that Buff State is interested in Doug.
GunnerBill Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I see this thread has descended into the usual "see Tyrod is good - he can still be the guy" nonsense. And they have the audacity to call the anti-Tyrod crew the crusaders.
Bangarang Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I generally agree, but if their is a distinct trajectory of improvement in the most recent games, that's worth noting too. Won't know until next season plays out.
jeffismagic Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 I think Doug Whaley's assessment that the Bills QB situation needed to be improved will be shown as correct.
GunnerBill Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) I think Doug Whaley's assessment that the Bills QB situation needed to be improved will be shown as correct.It will. Edit: maybe they stumbled across something with Peterman. Who knows? But if their plan for 2017 is Tyord they better plan on taking a shot in 2018. Edited May 1, 2017 by GunnerBill
HappyDays Posted May 2, 2017 Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) It will. Edit: maybe they stumbled across something with Peterman. Who knows? But if their plan for 2017 is Tyord they better plan on taking a shot in 2018. They're definitely ready to take a shot next year. They collected an extra 1st for a reason. IMO the Chiefs didn't improve much this offseason, and they have a tough schedule, so I expect their pick to be in the mid-range, around 16 or so. If Tyrod shows he's not the answer we won't win all that many games anyways, maybe pick around 10 or so. We could trade the farm - 3 1sts in 2018 and 2019 along with multiple other lower round picks - to move up and select one of the top QBs. It's supposed to be a great draft year for QBs. And they took Peterman this year, and still have Cardale. We are fine at QB for now. Even if Tyrod fails we have plenty to fall back on. At least the Bills are finally taking QBs every year and gaining 1st round picks instead of trading them away. The more competition the better until someone steps up. Edited May 2, 2017 by HappyDays
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