KingBoots8 Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 . (Chad Kelly) absolutely, apparently neither of you have seen him play. Very strong arm Mobil, if he gets his head screwed on right he could have the best outcome of anyone this year. Those who don't want him, have only seen the chatter about his personality....
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Strengths: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Weaknesses: Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/43586992/ I think if scouts really had the lock on what will make a QB succeed n the NFL, all 32 teams would have franchise caliber QB and backups. I do think that coming from Pittsburgh, Whaley was looking for the reincarnation of Big Ben with EJ and Cardale. Everybody would like a big, strong, sturdy QB with a great arm and great football ability, but don't prioritize what the guy looks like over everything else! You can't coach size or speed, but apparently where NFL QB are concerned you can't coach field vision, decision making, and throwing ability as much as one would like these days.
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 As long as he isn't rushed and can sit for a year. If the situation dictates(TT injury or season slipping away), and he is ready, why can't Peterman play and succeed right away? Because of the notion that EVERY QB in order to be successful, must sit and learn for a year? Did it hurt Wilson and Prescott? I'm not saying Peterman will be ready to handle it, but if the HC thinks he can be the man, then turn him loose.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Highly unlikely that this was a Lil Doug pick. Indeed. I don't think anyone in this draft should be seen as a Whaley pick. You don't fire your GM the day after the draft but give them the keys to the car during the draft. Others had very significant input.
Captain Murica Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Sounds like he'll be out verision of Matt Moore
Rochesterfan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Saying a top draft pick will be the QB next year is 100% reasonable and I think that's clearly the plan if Tyrod and the team aren't more productive in 2017 than 2016. That's not something I'd remotely argue against. It's those saying that Peterman is suddenly "The Guy" that I think are just grasping at straws at this point. I love the way people keep coming back to this. Someone even used the words "open competition." Let's see how they split the reps in TC. Is there anyone willing to bet Taylor isn't the starter Week 1 against the Jets barring injury? I'll give you 3 to 1 odds... God Thurm. It's clear I annoy you, but try reading posts and conversations you're responding to, please. What are you pulling 3 years from? I responded to Foxx who said he was 95% sure Taylor would be benched by the last game THIS YEAR. You're embarrassing yourself... Look - I do not think it will be a true open competition - I think baring injuries there is probably nearly a 100% chance TT starts the season as the QB. I just do not think the team is going to view TT as anything more than a 1 year gap and if the schedule plays out tough and we are not winning - I would not be shocked to see a change at QB this year. If I had to put odds on things - I would give higher odds to Peterman starting a game this year than TT being on the team in 3 years (meaning he got some type of extension). I think both are low odds, but I do not know how this team is planing for the next 12-24 months.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Whenever someone - not just you - brings up the idea of how important arm strength is to play in the NFL, I think of Chad Pennington who had a very nice career. He played with accuracy and anticipation, which translates the best to the NFL game. Hoping this young man can do something similar or better. 1. Pennington is the only one to even be good since Montana. 2. Pennington only went so far and never really won anything. He wasn't a top ten QB.
Brandon Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I do think that coming from Pittsburgh, Whaley was looking for the reincarnation of Big Ben with EJ and Cardale. Everybody would like a big, strong, sturdy QB with a great arm and great football ability, but don't prioritize what the guy looks like over everything else! You can't coach size or speed, but apparently where NFL QB are concerned you can't coach field vision, decision making, and throwing ability as much as one would like these days. I think you're absolutely right. Once I realized that Whaley was very much prioritizing the wrong attributes at the position, I also realized he'd never find a quality QB and probably never get them past being a .500 team. Its unfortunate, because I think he was otherwise a decent GM, but he had a BIG blind spot at QB.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I'd say so too. Taylor is obviously the leader. IMO it's not open like it was two years ago...but maybe it is? We'll see in a few months. Like 2 years ago I stated new coach new scheme and open competitions. TT has the edge but he still has to earn it in McDs eyes.
Coach Tuesday Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 1. Pennington is the only one to even be good since Montana. 2. Pennington only went so far and never really won anything. He wasn't a top ten QB. Pennington's undoing was his back and his concussions, not his arm.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Pennington's undoing was his back and his concussions, not his arm. Those things are what made him pitiful at the end where you felt sorry for him. Playing QB in the NFL requires about 25 different qualities and skills all at the same time and Pennington had almost all of them except his rag arm. When a player has almost all of them and still has a good arm he is a star or superstar every time.
BuffAlone Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Pete is going to scare alot of devout TT fans in TC and pre-season... Book it TODAY.Oh Man, are we already to nickname him? Pistol Pete is already taken. Thank Goodness,that'd be a hot debate here. 😉Pea-shooter Pete,maybe? Edited April 30, 2017 by BuffAlone
stuvian Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 the one armed drummer in Def Leppard can throw the ball farther than Peterman
BuffAlone Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 the one armed drummer in Def Leppard can throw the ball farther than PetermanNot without some fancy footwork!
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Love that he's wearing #2 for whatever little that's worth
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Love that he's wearing #2 for whatever little that's worth It's his highest aspiration.
Green Lightning Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Pennington's undoing was his back and his concussions, not his arm. That's closer to the truth, his back was a constant issue. Still his arm wasn't an asset. From the film I have been watching, Peterman's arm looks to better than what I remember of Chad's days.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) It's his highest aspiration.if he ends up playing that jersey will fill the stands because it's a cool number. I don't have alot of facts to back that up. More specifically none, but I'm feeling good about it still Edited April 30, 2017 by Brianmoorman4jesus
Green Lightning Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 the one armed drummer in Def Leppard can throw the ball farther than Peterman Were all your 18,000 posts on BBMB so insightful and well thought out?
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Completely different type of QB than any of they guys they've played/drafted since Trent/Fitz, maybe Orton (although I never saw Kyle as an anticipatory thrower) Will be interesting to see, but I'm betting he ousts Tyrod at some point if nothing else because we've seen a pivot with Yates and Peterman back to a classical pocket passing finesse QBs as opposed to mobile howitzer armed guys. Given Tyrod strengths are so unique, if you build an offense around that but have a completely different style with the back up, do you have two completely different approaches accounted for in one playbook in case the starter goes down? I assume the Cardale vs Peterman may be our fist look at which way McD wants the offense to evolve...
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