Top NFL QB Prospects for 2018

[BobbyC81]

dont forget Mike Weber Jr!

 

The former Sabres defenseman?

[YoloinOhio]

 

Got some Buckeyes lined up over the summer, he'll get a looking at. Few Draft Breakdown videos on him recently too.

Barkley and Guice are sure-fire first rounders. I'm thinking we will take one later but never know... a guy like Weber or Scott in the 3rd would be nice.

 

The former Sabres defenseman?

hell naw

[BillsFan17]

 

Man, if Barkley, Guice, Rawleigh Williams, Ronald Jones, Kamryn Pettway (my personal favourite), Myles Gaskin, Bo Scarborough, LJ Scott all declared.........

 

I'm going Wing-T and never looking back.

How many do you envision being first rounders if you don't mind we askin?

[YoloinOhio]

I think Barkley is going to be a star. I wouldn't rule out RB next year if they don't need to move up. The Bills could get something like Rosen and Guice (who I like more than Fournette).

i keep saying Barkley should sit out this season, you know just to make sure he doesn't get hurt

[Sweats]

Darnold is going to the Browns. It's a done deal. That's why they didn't draft anyone this year or last. Jets and 49ers are next. We might get the 4th best guy if we are lucky

 

 

 

 

 

Well, the Browns took Kizer this year, so you got that going for ya.

[BuffaloBud420]

 

He's 6"1" and solidly built, so the height thing seems pretty nominal. Carr and Prescott are only and inch taller and he's taller than Brees, Wilson and Taylor.

Enough undersize And. Rarely works.

[Blokestradamus]

How many do you envision being first rounders if you don't mind we askin?

 

I think Barkley is probably the only nailed-on 1st rounder at this point (some of the prettiest 1-yard gains you'll ever see). I think Guice is the best of the bunch but I think a lot of teams are waiting to see who he is now that he's "the man" with Fournette leaving. Guice also needs to show more in the passing game. He's plenty capable but it's about proving it.

 

Same as the 2017 class, the depth of the class is what can make it special. Who said the running back position was dead?!

[Blokestradamus]

So, Jeff is getting acquainted with Josh Allen

 

@JeffRisdon

Watching SDSU/Wyoming game, MWC Championship. Gonna guess most folks trumpeting Josh Allen haven't watched this one...

It's nuts. He's somewhere between DeShone Kizer and Tyler Thigpen, with some Paxton Lynch sprinkled in. Folks HATED all those guys

Praising Allen for making a (fantastic) tackle after throwing a pathetic INT, late and off target. Big machine in full motion

And, for the visual amongst you - https://twitter.com/JeffRisdon/status/861587475348815873

[jeffismagic]

 

So, Jeff is getting acquainted with Josh Allen

 

@JeffRisdon

Watching SDSU/Wyoming game, MWC Championship. Gonna guess most folks trumpeting Josh Allen haven't watched this one...

 

It's nuts. He's somewhere between DeShone Kizer and Tyler Thigpen, with some Paxton Lynch sprinkled in. Folks HATED all those guys

Praising Allen for making a (fantastic) tackle after throwing a pathetic INT, late and off target. Big machine in full motion

And, for the visual amongst you - https://twitter.com/JeffRisdon/status/861587475348815873

 

 

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14 games of up-and-down tape in the Mountain West has Josh Allen a possible #1 pick. Mahomes, Watson & Kizer just lacked that one intangible

[Blokestradamus]

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14 games of up-and-down tape in the Mountain West has Josh Allen a possible #1 pick. Mahomes, Watson & Kizer just lacked that one intangible

 

Did you see his JUCO stats? 49% completion rate at Reedley.

[jeffismagic]

 

Did you see his JUCO stats? 49% completion rate at Reedley.

 

And to be fair, I have no defined opinion on these guys yet. I just found it funny that the Kipers, McShays and Cosells always fall in love with trying to find the next Carson Wentz or Blake Bortles.

 

I think I want the Bills to get Wilton Speight. He's tall and pro-style.

Edited May 8, 2017 by jeffismagic

[Blokestradamus]

And to be fair, I have no defined opinion on these guys yet. I just found it funny that the Kipers, McShays and Cosells always fall in love with trying to find the next Carson Wentz or Blake Bortles.

 

Likewise. I mean, I was a Wentz fan a year out and thought he was a guy to potentially trade back into the 1st for (or take in the 20's as I foolishly thought we'd be good).

 

I guess it's my prerogative to apply context and media members' to hype up at all costs.

 

It's the same old story every time.

Edited May 8, 2017 by Blokestradamus

[jeffismagic]

 

Likewise. I mean, I was a Wentz fan a year out and thought he was a guy to potentially trade back into the 1st for (or take in the 20's as I foolishly thought we'd be good).

 

I guess it's my prerogative to apply context and media members' to hype up at all costs.

 

It's the same old story every time.

 

I think I need an avatar change. Should I go Allen or Speight?

[GunnerBill]

 

It's the same old story every time.

 

What you mean that next year's class is the one?

 

I remember being told a year out that the Matt Barkley, Tyler Bray, Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson group had legitimate pro prospects and that Barkley would be the consensus #1 pick. In the end EJ and Geno were the first QBs off the board in a bad class and Glennon has had probably the most (although very limited) success.

 

I haven't started to dig into any of the 2018 QBs yet but I am going to make a start over the summer, which is a first for me. Usually I like to make sure I have watched them all on TV in "non evaluation mode" before I start breaking them down.... but given the number of hot names in the 2018 class I am going to make a start.

[Blokestradamus]

What you mean that next year's class is the one?

 

I remember being told a year out that the Matt Barkley, Tyler Bray, Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson group had legitimate pro prospects and that Barkley would be the consensus #1 pick. In the end EJ and Geno were the first QBs off the board in a bad class and Glennon has had probably the most (although very limited) success.

 

I haven't started to dig into any of the 2018 QBs yet but I am going to make a start over the summer, which is a first for me. Usually I like to make sure I have watched them all on TV in "non evaluation mode" before I start breaking them down.... but given the number of hot names in the 2018 class I am going to make a start.

 

Whenever there's a prototypical-sized white kid from anything close to a pro-style scheme, the media go nuts. Nobody wanted to hype up a Watson/Mahomes/Kizer class early doors and two of which ended up going top 12.

 

Guys like Darnold/Allen are a McShay/Kiper wet dream because they can sell them to the masses with consumate ease. Let us never forget the Leidner to Dallas at 25 stunt last year

 

Depending on how Wednesday goes, I may or may not have some spare time to make a start on the '18 class. As of right now, I'd take Luke Falk over the field.

Man, if Barkley, Guice, Rawleigh Williams, Ronald Jones, Kamryn Pettway (my personal favourite), Myles Gaskin, Bo Scarborough, LJ Scott all declared.........

 

I'm going Wing-T and never looking back.

 

Sadly, we can scratch Rawleigh Williams off the list. After another neck issue in the Razorbacks' spring game, he's decided to retire from football - http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/glory_posts/next-chapter/#sm.008ni8ma10bseu511rx1q6gkhlhkp

Edited May 8, 2017 by Blokestradamus

[yungmack]

Whenever there's a prototypical-sized white kid from anything close to a pro-style scheme, the media go nuts. Nobody wanted to hype up a Watson/Mahomes/Kizer class early doors and two of which ended up going top 12.

 

Guys like Darnold/Allen are a McShay/Kiper wet dream because they can sell them to the masses with consumate ease. Let us never forget the Leidner to Dallas at 25 stunt last year

 

Blokes, I usually enjoy your posts. But this is nuts. Tons of evaluators had Watson or Mahomes at the top of their lists. Throw in Trubisky and you have the core of what seemed like endless battling threads around here. As to the enthusiasm for Darnold, if his talent isn't obvious to you, then there's nothing to be said other than go watch him play.

 

I feel your implication that racism is the reason why Darnold excites evaluators more than a Watson does is way over the line.

[Blokestradamus]

Blokes, I usually enjoy your posts. But this is nuts. Tons of evaluators had Watson or Mahomes at the top of their lists. Throw in Trubisky and you have the core of what seemed like endless battling threads around here. As to the enthusiasm for Darnold, if his talent isn't obvious to you, then there's nothing to be said other than go watch him play.

 

I feel your implication that racism is the reason why Darnold excites evaluators more than a Watson does is way over the line.

 

We're talking about being one year out. Mahomes' biggest advocates were probably me and Bandit. He barely registered on many radars as a top prospect. As far into this process as March, we still had a ton of people within the media talking down this class until they realised that there were a few guys that were going way earlier than they thought.

 

I've watched enough of Darnold to understand the talent he has but that he's both inexperienced and has a lot to work on. The hype for guys like Allen is the thing that I find unfathomable, the 1st round hype for guys like Davis Webb or Mitch Leidner is another part of it. Christian Hackenberg as well (literally the next Luck because he was tall, white and pro-style). I'm supposed to see Allen hyped up as a potential #1 pick while Lamar Jackson is getting the "is he really a QB" treatment? Let's not forget that Marcus Mariota & Teddy Bridgewater were also picked apart in ways that others aren't subject to.

 

I don't expect this to be welcomed or popular but I've seen this song and dance a few times now. I'm not falling for it again.

[GunnerBill]

I think there is a definite USC factor too. USC Quarterbacks get hype. Now it doesn't mean Darnold will fail because Mark Sanchez failed.... but playing Quarterback for USC makes you a nationally recognised Quarterback before you make the NFL and sometimes they are crowned too early.

[Saint Doug]

I think there is a definite USC factor too. USC Quarterbacks get hype. Now it doesn't mean Darnold will fail because Mark Sanchez failed.... but playing Quarterback for USC makes you a nationally recognised Quarterback before you make the NFL and sometimes they are crowned too early.

And they also have a particular stigma of producing QB flops. I see USC and I turn the page.

[CommonCents]

And they also have a particular stigma of producing QB flops. I see USC and I turn the page.

Same.