Kirby Jackson Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 i don't know... it's a pretty "basic" defenseSetting the spread at 24.5 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Setting the spread at 24.5Larry Johnson has so much talent at DE that he's going to play Sam Hubbard standing up at LB and use a 5 "Rushmen" package... Edited May 6, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote
rant_and_go Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Try watching first before making uneducated comments. Both of us can watch Sam Bradford get benched for a QB who had his leg ripped off, and Matt Stafford choke and never win. Long list of top QB prospect who go nowhere. Quote
yungmack Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Some good options next draft: http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/friday-five-ranking-the-top-2018-nfl-draft-quarterback-prospects/ 5. Luke Falk, Washington State: I was torn between two names to put in this fifth slot. Falk obviously won out, but the other name was Penn State’s Trace McSorley. In the end, I decided to go with Falk because 2018 will be his senior season and he’s definitely entering the draft next year. McSorley will be draft eligible, but there’s no guarantee he’ll be leaving Penn State. So congratulations, Luke. You win on a technicality of sorts. Which isn’t to say he’s not going to generate interest. Falk plays in an offense that is definitely pass-first. Even if Washington State implemented the run game more last year, it’s still a Mike Leach offense, and it’s an offense Falk has put up monster numbers in the last few seasons. As a starter the last two years, Falk has thrown for 9,029 yards and 76 touchdowns. Odds are he’ll throw for at least 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns again in 2017. He also has the size that NFL teams are going to look at as he checks in at 6-foot-4 and 205 pounds. 4. Josh Allen, Wyoming: Are you a fan of an NFL team that has a quarterback situation that leaves a little something to be desired? If you are, you may want to try to watch Wyoming play football this season. If you do, you’ll see a quarterback that many felt could have been a first-round pick had he chosen to leave Wyoming this year. Josh Allen didn’t, though, and he’ll return to the Cowboys for another season. Allen will be compared to former North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz because of where he goes to school. He’ll be the guy that “came out of nowhere,” but the truth is he’s always been there if you know where to look. Allen’s numbers with Wyoming last season weren’t eye-popping. He completed only 56 percent of his passes for 3,203 yards, 28 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. That’s not what will matter to NFL teams, though. No, they’ll look at Allen and see a kid who is 6-foot-5 and 222 pounds. A big kid with a good arm, decent athleticism, and experience playing in a pro-style system at Wyoming. . 3. Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State: I get the sense that I’m a bit higher on Mason Rudolph than some, but believe me when I tell you that NFL teams are going to be all over him after next season. He just checks all the boxes of what NFL teams look for in a quarterback. He has the size at 6-foot-5 and 235 pounds, and he definitely has the arm. Rudolph fits balls into windows that a lot of other college quarterbacks just can’t -- though they’ll try anyway -- and he’s accurate while doing so. That’s why he been able to complete 63 percent of his passes the last two seasons while averaging nearly nine yards per attempt. It’s also why he had seven times as many touchdowns (28) as interceptions (four) last season. While he won’t start at the top of the list -- I mean, he’s No. 3 here, and I love him -- I wouldn’t be surprised if Rudolph is considered the top guy in the 2018 class by this time next year. 2. Josh Rosen, UCLA: Rosen arrived at UCLA with a lot of hype, and deservedly so. He was a good, young, polished quarterback straight out of high school. He also played incredibly well as a true freshman in 2015, completing 60 percent of his passes for 3,669 yards and 23 touchdowns. He also threw 11 interceptions, but again, he was a true freshman, and I don’t care how good they are, they’re going to turn the ball over from time to time. His sophomore season wasn’t nearly as kind. Rosen played in only six games because of a shoulder injury that required surgery. Now, when it comes to a quarterback, shoulder surgery is always scary, and you have to believe it could be a red flag for some NFL teams. The good news for Rosen is that he’s expected to be fully healthy for the start of the 2017 season. If he gets back on the field and shows improvement on the promise he displayed in 2015, he’s going to be a big-time NFL prospect yet again. He has the size, he has the arm, and he’s shown a good command of the offense at UCLA at a very young age. It’s basically like he was built to be a first-round pick one day. 1. Sam Darnold, USC: The hype for Darnold has already begun. He’s already the Heisman favorite six months before the season even begins , and if you look at early 2018 NFL mock drafts (seriously, they exist) you’re going to find Darnold’s name as the No. 1 pick more often than not. . And I find it really hard to disagree with any of it. He was only a four-star recruit out of high school in 2015, and after redshirting his first year at USC, he lost out to Max Browne to open 2016 as USC’s starter. Even then, though, many felt it was only a matter of time before Darnold took over the starting gig because he’d been extremely impressive since coming to campus. Darnold saw some time as a reserve in USC’s first three games and finally took over the starting job for good in the Trojans’ fourth game of the season. Though USC lost his first start on the road against a good Utah team, it wasn’t because of anything Darnold did wrong. Then he just took off. Over USC’s final nine games of the season, Darnold threw for 2,833 yards and 31 touchdowns while completing nearly 70 percent of his passes. And while nobody would consider him the next Lamar Jackson, he also showed enough mobility with his legs to be a running threat as well. You put his numbers alongside his measurables, and he’s suddenly the guy who will have plenty of NFL fans rooting for their team to lose games so they can get the No. 1 pick and take him. Yes, there’s a lot of hype surrounding Darnold right now, but he’s fully capable of living up to it. I like your picks and assessments, although I don't know about dropping McSorley because he might not come out. Darnold is in the same position, as I believe Rosen is (though I'd bet he will declare for the draft). Sauce for the goose, and all that. FWIW, last fall I started watching Peterman and that led me to McSorley and I have to say, by the end of the year he'd won me over. In fact, by this past January, the two best college teams were USC and Penn St. to my eyes, and that the Rose Bowl was the true national championship. Quote
1billsfan Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I like them all. Traditional pocket passsers. We haven't had that since Bledsoe. They're definitely the top 5, I would rank then. 1. Rosen 2. Darnold 3. Allen 4. Falk 5. Rudolph We better stay away from Mayfield (too small) and Jackson (not great from pocket). He's 6"1" and solidly built, so the height thing seems pretty nominal. Carr and Prescott are only and inch taller and he's taller than Brees, Wilson and Taylor. Quote
yungmack Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Kizer is not a project, he needed another year to develop. I would have preferred he stay at ND one more year, but he didn't. He is capable of starting in 2018. You are 100% correct he needs at least another year. But that program of Kelly's at ND would more than likely see him regress even further. Probably best he got out of there now. I'm on board the Josh Allen train. Might I suggest you make it a point to watch a bunch of USC games this year before the train leaves the station? Quote
Blokestradamus Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 He's 6"1" and solidly built, so the height thing seems pretty nominal. Carr and Prescott are only and inch taller and he's taller than Brees, Wilson and Taylor. Really handy for us that he got arrested so we got a real height on him Quote
1billsfan Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Really handy for us that he got arrested so we got a real height on him You're right...LOL Quote
Sandy McFiddish Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 Getting Sam Darnold would feel like it did when we drafted Jim Kelly, well without the blowing us off for the USFL part lol. Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 No. Brady has been granted special treatment by the NFL. Rosen would have to prove himself before he gets the same treatment. It will never happen since Rosen is closer to Johnny Manziel than Tom Brady. Rosen comes across as a spoiled rich kid prima donna. Brady may rub us Bills fans the wrong way, but you have to admit that he puts in a lot of work. Brady has played his entire career as if he has something to prove. Rosen doesn't seem to have those traits according to many scouts. Probably all true but I was referring to doesn't like to be hit. Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Both of us can watch Sam Bradford get benched for a QB who had his leg ripped off, and Matt Stafford choke and never win. Long list of top QB prospect who go nowhere. True but that has nothing to do with this class or the God awful class of EJ. Now that doesn't mean that there aren't any bums in this class I just think it is better than most and Darnold might be the next Elway except his arm isn't quite that good. Getting Sam Darnold would feel like it did when we drafted Jim Kelly, well without the blowing us off for the USFL part lol. Exactly, accept even better. Quote
Webster Guy Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Alex smith is going on IR after week 2 this year. KC is gonna tank and give us the #1 pick Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Alex smith is going on IR after week 2 this year. KC is gonna tank and give us the #1 pick Exactly !!! Quote
GoBills808 Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Wore a "!@#$ Trump" hat playing golf. Had a hot tub in his dorm. Essentially, easy target for the "Does he love football or what the game does for him?" target. Just a kid having fun. Not. Sanitary. Quote
Augie Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Alex smith is going on IR after week 2 this year. KC is gonna tank and give us the #1 pick Sounds great! But they would still wind up near us..... Quote
BobbyC81 Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) Baker Mayfield will be the best of next years classHe supposedly has small hands which would be a deterrent playing in Buffalo weather. Jake Browning of Washington should not be overlooked. PAC-12 Player of the Year leading the Huskies to the Pac-12 Title and a berth in the College Football Playoff. Had 43 TD passes. Will be going into his junior year. Admittedly I'm biased because he played in high school right down the road from me in Folsom, CA Edited May 7, 2017 by LittleJoeCartwright Quote
8-8 Forever? Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 They'll be plenty of teams that already have a QB that will be picking in the top 10. We'll have the ammo to leapfrog any of those teams you listed, unless they are pick 1, 2, and 3. Plus, I doubt the Browns will have the top pick next year. But, they'll have picks to play around with too. Yeah, next year should be the year Bills pull the trigger on a Round 1 QB. Browns, Jets, others will be there as well. I know everyone will dislike another 7-9 season, but this year may be the one to pull another 7-9 record and actually get something great out of it... Quote
BobbyC81 Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Yeah, next year should be the year Bills pull the trigger on a Round 1 QB. Browns, Jets, others will be there as well. I know everyone will dislike another 7-9 season, but this year may be the one to pull another 7-9 record and actually get something great out of it... So, then they'll probably go 10-6 but still miss the playoffs and pick is around 20. Quote
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Probably all true but I was referring to doesn't like to be hit. He does have that in common with Brady. I just assumed you were making the point that Rosen can be successful like Brady, even though he doesn't like to be hit. I just wanted to point out it's been reported that Rosen has some major Manziel esque attitude problems. Those issues will hold Rosen back far more than his dislike of being hit. Quote
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